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Re: You cannot read this, but you can tell how it appeals to you

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"You cannot read this" That's a little presumptuous, don't you think? I can read it, as can many other people who have commented. Don't assume no one here can understand Dutch or any other language for that matter.

You're totally right. It was a little presumptuous. You know the saying: "Assumption is the mother of all..."? From an autistic, mathematical point of view you are right, but if I look into the stats of my Google Analytics, I see less then 4.1% Dutch. If I take into account that especially Dutch people would click on a link ending with .nl, I think I may assume the percentage of Dutch HN readers is even low. What I m…

I'm German and I know that most germans could read this. :) It's funny how similar Dutch and German are.

Re: You cannot read this, but you can tell how it appeals to you

#43
post #33

I'm not the target audience, but I can read it. Love the anchor names!

Thanks :) I would never have thought anyone would actually notice the silly language joke at all... If you happen to know Dutch freelancers who still do their accounting in Excel, you know where to send them to ;)

Hi! ZZP-er, still using Excel. (Well, Google Docs).

However, my first language is English. I do struggle a lot with Dutch taxes as my speaking is generally better than reading/writing. I wonder if it would be worth you offering an English localization of your site? I know there are a lot of ZZP'ers in the Netherlands whose first language is not Dutch (my gf works for a recruitment company, and they recruit heavily from Italy, Spain, and India).

Re: You cannot read this, but you can tell how it appeals to you

#44

I can read this :D

And you're living in Utrecht as well I see :) If you want to grab a coffee the other day, drop me an e-mail. My username at gmail...

Hey, I'm in Utrecht a lot too! Would be interested in grabbing coffee too sometime. davedx@gmail.com

Re: You cannot read this, but you can tell how it appeals to you

#45

Within the Netherlands there are far more appealing solutions, such as MoneyBird. They've been rockin' at it for a few years now. To be honest, to me MoneyMonk looks like a limited clone of MoneyBird. (I'm a happy customer of MoneyBird)

I am glad you are a happy customer of MoneyBird. This tells me there is at least a market of 1 person ;) I am quite surprised you can tell from only a couple of screenshots, MoneyMonk is a limited clone.

Of course there are similarities, giving the fact we target the same audience. But I really think we have a different kind of product. This sort of competition is only a good thing. It keeps us all motivated to make the best software for our customers. In the end it is the customer who wins.

Re: You cannot read this, but you can tell how it appeals to you

#46
post #40

Looks nice. Small note: the top logo does not fit in IE8. How does moneymonk compare to moneybird?

As I said in another comment, I haven't tested in IE entirely. Going to buy a windows laptop today :). I don't know MoneyBird that well (except for the invoicing part), so I can't tell you exactly. What I do know is, we have streamlined the entire process of sending invoices and reminders. We take a fundamental different approach to MoneyBird.

Re: You cannot read this, but you can tell how it appeals to you

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're both right. Personally I hate it when I go to a restaurant and they ask me if I want some bread already, or when they ask me if I want ketchup with my fries. Yes, yes, yes, of course. Why they ask? Because when you get the bill, you see 50ct for the ketchup. I don't like such an experience. This is exactly why I don't differentiate in functionality, but only in price based on the commitment. Our target custome…

It's not about what features are and aren't included. You offer different plans to make one sound like a bargain, you offer an expensive one to make the others look relatively cheap and you offer a cheap one too. No-one chooses the cheapest wine. It's a human psychology thing, nothing to do with features. If you aren't using this trick, you probably shouldn't present it like that as it's confusing. You can use suppor…

I offer a cheap plan for monthly payment (the product is very low margin, especially compared to the large players in the market where one would easily pay at least 75e per month for the same functionality), a small discount if you're willing to commit for one year, and even a bigger discount if you're willing to commit for two years.

In the beginning we need cash flow, cash is king. So we hope lots of people buy the 2-year-deal. We are not trying to trick anyone. And I want an easy product, not a complicated one with different kind of support levels etc. No, I target a very specific audience, where there is no room for feature differentiation, imho. But who knows, this is just my feeling right now, we might change the offers in the future.

Re: You cannot read this, but you can tell how it appeals to you

#48
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When scrolling the "Probeer MoneyMonk 14 dagen vrijblijvend!" button moves into the header but only for a very short time. I don't think many poeple will actually click through the carrousel "Dit kan MoneyMonk voor jou betekenen..." so it might be better to condense it down a bit and make it into a long-form page. Also, that the screenshots at the top move up is nice but I still can't see enough to figure out what th…

Hmm, I guess I was wrong you cannot read it ;) The button moves to the header to make sure a Call To Action button is always visible. The CTA in the header disappears if a CTA button on the website is visible. Good point about the carrousel. I might want to track some events to see if people actually use it. But if it is a long form, doesn't that hurt the experience? On massive long page? You are actually able to cli…

Ah OK. I have a 30" monitor so for me there was no CTA visible for only a tiny fraction of the page. As far as the carrousel is concerned, ideally you should just A/B-test what works of course.

Concerning the business model I just wanted to say that I feel the biggest opportunity in this area is actually for a site where you can just send all your digital correspondence and have it either stored or processed by a bookkeeper.

You can combine that with a service that will receive all your mail and digitize it for you or offer a discount on a Fujitsu ScanSnap (doable for yearly plans e.g.) and have the scans sent straight to your service.

In the Netherlands Yuki gets close but their UI is bad and costs are too steep to also send non financial documents there.

Re: You cannot read this, but you can tell how it appeals to you

#50
post #24

Non designer here. I like the overall design, but I do have a few things I'd personally change (nit picky, might not change my desire to click through): 1) The top screenshots coming into foreground is a nice touch, but something seems choppy about the animation. I think it's less to do with the currently hovered image, but what happens to the previous image you had selected. It seems to just drop away in one frame,…

> Nobody really clicks through carousels anymore Is there a data point to back up this statement? I know I definitely do click through carousels, if I'm intrigued enough about what might be there.

There is a lively conversation over at ux.stackexchange about the usefulness of carousels here: http://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/10312/are-carousels-ef...

Theres isn't a lot of data to support the claims, but its a nice read anyway.

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