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Fake US thinktank set up and funded by Israel sought to game AI for propaganda

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Re: Fake US thinktank set up and funded by Israel sought to game AI for propaganda

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what makes a thinktank fake? no real authors? the about page seems rather standard to me - https://hanoverinstitute.com/hanover/about Every thinktank has always been established to push some viewpoint.

I'm no expert, but I'm guessing it's the fact that there's no actual thinking going on and it's AI generated slop designed to manipulate LLMs and subsequently the populace.

I would have thought AI companies were doing their best to discard AI-generated training data.

Re: Fake US thinktank set up and funded by Israel sought to game AI for propaganda

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On the Uyghur Genocide, we've seen aerial photography of the camps, images inside the camps, and survivors have testified before the UN on horrific accounts of abuse. Some of the most heinous stories I've ever read have come from that event, published by widely reputable outlets. Hard disagree that it's a government psyop.

The associated press reported the camps closing nearly 5 years ago. The entire conversation around the Uyghur "Genocide" has never been serious. The claim of genocide came from the estimated rate of population growth reducing(to a still positive rate) and the actual report, written by a high up member of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation specifically used the phrase "Cultural Genocide". Additionally, the r…

s/Uyghur/Jew/ and s/China/Germany/ and pretend it's 1938, then reread your comment and see how believable it sounds.

Re: Fake US thinktank set up and funded by Israel sought to game AI for propaganda

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Do you think there are more posts about Israel here, or any other non-US nation? I might do the math and come back. I’m certain Israel is wildly over presented in attention on HN.

I would hope it’s over presented because it’s committing genocide

Prior to the Gaza war, which the Palestinians started, do you think Israel was overepresented or underrepresented on social media?

Do you think that the much, much deadlier Russian war in Ukraine has gotten more attention or less?

Re: Fake US thinktank set up and funded by Israel sought to game AI for propaganda

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The associated press reported the camps closing nearly 5 years ago. The entire conversation around the Uyghur "Genocide" has never been serious. The claim of genocide came from the estimated rate of population growth reducing(to a still positive rate) and the actual report, written by a high up member of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation specifically used the phrase "Cultural Genocide". Additionally, the r…

s/Uyghur/Jew/ and s/China/Germany/ and pretend it's 1938, then reread your comment and see how believable it sounds.

We have cell phones and satellite imagery now.

We can also trace the endless deluge of articles with their citations and see almost every single one ends up at a thinktank laundering the Zenz report.

There is an actual genocide in Palestine right now where we watch in HD as missiles are leveling apartment blocks and ripping apart the families of doctors while they tend to the wounded.

There is also a war in Ukraine where we can watch the destruction of vast swaths of land and people in a WWI esque meat grinder.

What did we have for Xinjiang besides a whole lot of "trust-me"s from known anti-communism orgs? A few interviews? a couple pictures of prisoners?

Re: Fake US thinktank set up and funded by Israel sought to game AI for propaganda

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would hope it’s over presented because it’s committing genocide

Prior to the Gaza war, which the Palestinians started, do you think Israel was overepresented or underrepresented on social media? Do you think that the much, much deadlier Russian war in Ukraine has gotten more attention or less?

Ukraine gets way too much coverage to pull off any decent whataboutism. Try Sudan.

Re: Fake US thinktank set up and funded by Israel sought to game AI for propaganda

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the Uyghur Genocide, we've seen aerial photography of the camps, images inside the camps, and survivors have testified before the UN on horrific accounts of abuse. Some of the most heinous stories I've ever read have come from that event, published by widely reputable outlets. Hard disagree that it's a government psyop.

The associated press reported the camps closing nearly 5 years ago. The entire conversation around the Uyghur "Genocide" has never been serious. The claim of genocide came from the estimated rate of population growth reducing(to a still positive rate) and the actual report, written by a high up member of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation specifically used the phrase "Cultural Genocide". Additionally, the r…

Thank you for educating me brother - I never knew about the relationship between the GWOT and events in Xinjiang. The parallel between ex-ISIS camps in Syria is also very intriguing.

Re: Fake US thinktank set up and funded by Israel sought to game AI for propaganda

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

s/Uyghur/Jew/ and s/China/Germany/ and pretend it's 1938, then reread your comment and see how believable it sounds.

We have cell phones and satellite imagery now. We can also trace the endless deluge of articles with their citations and see almost every single one ends up at a thinktank laundering the Zenz report. There is an actual genocide in Palestine right now where we watch in HD as missiles are leveling apartment blocks and ripping apart the families of doctors while they tend to the wounded. There is also a war in Ukraine w…

Since they're not just blowing up the whole place, what would we expect to see from a satellite if it's true?

Re: Fake US thinktank set up and funded by Israel sought to game AI for propaganda

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would hope it’s over presented because it’s committing genocide

Prior to the Gaza war, which the Palestinians started, do you think Israel was overepresented or underrepresented on social media? Do you think that the much, much deadlier Russian war in Ukraine has gotten more attention or less?

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