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Nearly 3M Teslas recalled in China over hidden door handles

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Re: Nearly 3M Teslas recalled in China over hidden door handles

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China just continuing to be the super reasonable one. I wonder if the USA will double down and make hidden door handles mandatory, or just try and place a tariff on normal doors.

Continuing?? Most Chinese domestic market cars can't be sold in the west because they're to dangerous or polluting. I'm sure they're getting stricter on both fronts but they're still behind developed countries.

They’re pretty much dominating new electric cars in a lot of places now

Re: Nearly 3M Teslas recalled in China over hidden door handles

#42

Hidden door handles, button open doors when inside the car, only touch screen buttons, rear red turn signal lights. Reverse these trends. They all suck and unsafe. Ok the rear red turn signal lights were already a trend in the US before Tesla. But please reverse this too. It's very difficult to see blinking red lights on the freeway when it's sunny. For you people out there who buy cars with red blinking signal light…

Tesla several years ago returned to amber turn signal lights the US (and always had them outside the US).

Re: Nearly 3M Teslas recalled in China over hidden door handles

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To turn on the wipers you tap the button and scroll the wheel to select a speed. No touch screen required.

whew, that's going to be a relief to the driver that hits an unexpected cloudburst while driving 80mph (130km) down the highway.

And what would you do in any other car? You'd also maneuver a stalk which is almost no different from pressing a button

Re: Nearly 3M Teslas recalled in China over hidden door handles

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Would it help to add a surface behind the side mirrors so that it's more aerodynamic? I'm thinking something that stretches from the car body to the side mirrors. Or could the side mirrors could be shaped like an airplane's wing so that the air displaces nicely? It'd look weird, but I'd rather have the fuel efficiency.

You could replace the mirrors with tiny cameras and screens inside the car, perhaps. But not sure that would be legal.

But this is part of the problem. A mirror just works, or is very visibly broken if not. We want to have less electronic stuff in cars, not more. So I hope this isn't legal.

Re: Nearly 3M Teslas recalled in China over hidden door handles

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Would it help to add a surface behind the side mirrors so that it's more aerodynamic? I'm thinking something that stretches from the car body to the side mirrors. Or could the side mirrors could be shaped like an airplane's wing so that the air displaces nicely? It'd look weird, but I'd rather have the fuel efficiency.

You could replace the mirrors with tiny cameras and screens inside the car, perhaps. But not sure that would be legal.

The tiny cameras show up a lot in concept cars, but illegal to have in the US. They've been trying to change the law for a while:

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/a28120245/car-... (2019)

Re: Nearly 3M Teslas recalled in China over hidden door handles

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> that automatically lowers vehicle windows after a collision I wonder how long until people figure out that tapping the bumper of a parked tesla opens all the windows, letting people either steal the infotainment screen, or the whole car...

To detect impacts cars typically use sensors that require the entire car to experience significant acceleration, tapping the car definitely won’t do it.

What about body slamming it?

Re: Nearly 3M Teslas recalled in China over hidden door handles

#47

Hidden door handles, button open doors when inside the car, only touch screen buttons, rear red turn signal lights. Reverse these trends. They all suck and unsafe. Ok the rear red turn signal lights were already a trend in the US before Tesla. But please reverse this too. It's very difficult to see blinking red lights on the freeway when it's sunny. For you people out there who buy cars with red blinking signal light…

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Re: Nearly 3M Teslas recalled in China over hidden door handles

#48

China just continuing to be the super reasonable one. I wonder if the USA will double down and make hidden door handles mandatory, or just try and place a tariff on normal doors.

Continuing?? Most Chinese domestic market cars can't be sold in the west because they're to dangerous or polluting. I'm sure they're getting stricter on both fronts but they're still behind developed countries.

Seems like old information. Pretty sure most new Chinese cards are electric.

Re: Nearly 3M Teslas recalled in China over hidden door handles

#49

Hidden door handles, button open doors when inside the car, only touch screen buttons, rear red turn signal lights. Reverse these trends. They all suck and unsafe. Ok the rear red turn signal lights were already a trend in the US before Tesla. But please reverse this too. It's very difficult to see blinking red lights on the freeway when it's sunny. For you people out there who buy cars with red blinking signal light…

Allowing Silicon Valley dorks to redefine the established UIs of cars was one of the biggest mistakes of the last 10 years. Ultimately it's cost shaving, but it spread like a cancer to other manufacturers owing mostly to a TikTok-brained customer base (to their own detriment). It's one of the reasons I refuse to own a new car. Zero reason to hide critical controls behind a touch screen. My daily driver has all tactil…

The reason is cost savings. It's cheaper to modify software UI than it is to modify hardware UI.
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