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AI boosted homework scores, then exam scores dropped: study

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Re: AI boosted homework scores, then exam scores dropped: study

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So your complaint is...it's boring? The point is to train the brain via repitition and iteration. If your goal is entertainment, I'm not sure what you are looking for.

This site is flush with C students who are upset that they graduated before AI had the opportunity to destroy their learning experience.

Re: AI boosted homework scores, then exam scores dropped: study

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post #13

In my professional career, my employers give me a lot more assignments than exams.

In my professional career, my clients value the depth of ready knowledge that helps me use my tools with particular insight and finesse -- a kind of knowledge that exams demonstrated far more effectively than homework when I was back in school.

Re: AI boosted homework scores, then exam scores dropped: study

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Yep, learning is hard work.

I don't like doing anything hard, which is why I outsource all of my thoughts to for-profit slop generators.

Don't make any commentary on my intelligence or I'll get you banned.

Re: AI boosted homework scores, then exam scores dropped: study

#44

Guess what this is probably fine. AI helps people do their work on a daily basis and probably makes them memorize less things. That’s how the world is moving. You don’t need to be able to memorize something for an exam to show mastery of a topic. And we shouldn’t organize our society around memorizing things for exams.

What is a doctor? The person recommending next course of action based on best practices. What is the best practice? Is it a globally decided on thing, a locally tested thing that has proven to be better? Is the global thing just the most popular because someone wrote it on reddit and it got millions of views (but isn't actually good).

If our society is organized on just delegating all authority to "the best answer" we can drop all jobs - and only the surgeon has some authority over the machine. When we have a surgery robot, then they can go to. And at some point we'll be recommending and forcing surgery for athletes foot because some kind of best practice or viral post going out of control and a bunch of openclaw bots randomly decide to make tons of recommendations online for amputation for athletes foot and GPT 8.6 agrees this is the way to go.

OR we can somehow decide there is a boundary, there is some room for human memory and decisions.

Re: AI boosted homework scores, then exam scores dropped: study

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Why one would care? Look at your comment from two days ago.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49363319

> I hope we'll figure out some equitable society before that, but I'm not going to bet on it, so I'll do what I can to be on the side of the winners.

Obviously people care if they think they might lose out.

Is it going to be this hopes-and-prayers about egalitarianism/ah screw it I hope I get to oppress and dominate the majority? Or all of us sipping wine on the beach for eternity?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49366313

You gotta pick a lane with your rah-rah-ism.

Re: AI boosted homework scores, then exam scores dropped: study

#46

Guess what this is probably fine. AI helps people do their work on a daily basis and probably makes them memorize less things. That’s how the world is moving. You don’t need to be able to memorize something for an exam to show mastery of a topic. And we shouldn’t organize our society around memorizing things for exams.

Definitely not fine. People are graduating from Computer Science programs literally unable to write a line of code without AI assistance. These people have fallen into OpenAI and Anthropic's trap and are illiterate without the assistance of coin-operated slop generators.

Yup this is the devious plan.

Thank god for china!

Re: AI boosted homework scores, then exam scores dropped: study

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Why one would care? Look at your comment from two days ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49363319 > I hope we'll figure out some equitable society before that, but I'm not going to bet on it, so I'll do what I can to be on the side of the winners. Obviously people care if they think they might lose out. Is it going to be this hopes-and-prayers about egalitarianism/ah screw it I hope I get to oppress and domin…

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Re: AI boosted homework scores, then exam scores dropped: study

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post #26

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The important thing is that I could learn to use a flint and steel pretty easily if I wanted to. I don't need to carry out that particular task, but my ability to adapt to new problems means I can carry out more relevant tasks when needed. The most useful part of school and university for me wasn't that I learned the difference between a cirrocumulus and a cirrostratus cloud in geography class. It's that I learned ho…

It’s not ‘even the learned how to learn’.

It’s the exposure to feeling under pressure, creativity of the mind etc - the less you expose a human to ‘suffering’ the more useless they become.

Re: AI boosted homework scores, then exam scores dropped: study

#49

Guess what this is probably fine. AI helps people do their work on a daily basis and probably makes them memorize less things. That’s how the world is moving. You don’t need to be able to memorize something for an exam to show mastery of a topic. And we shouldn’t organize our society around memorizing things for exams.

One more step towards eliminating the value of labor entirely. What "work" will people be doing on a daily basis, and what makes it valuable?

Re: AI boosted homework scores, then exam scores dropped: study

#50
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meetings are still like exams, if you can't craft a line of thinking on the spot it doesn't come off well. You don't need a final answer but you can't just answer "I don't know" otherwise you risk being slimed (shout out to anyone who still remembers "You Can't Do That on Television")

“I don’t know but after this meeting I will find out and get back to you” Is an acceptable answer.

It's only an acceptable answer when used sparingly. The more often it's used, the more questions arise about your role in that meeting.
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