Add the flock CEOs license plate to the system, lets see how he likes it
Woman pulled over twice after Flock-linked software connected her to homicide
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Re: Woman pulled over twice after Flock-linked software connected her to homicide
#42The inaccuracy of our omniscient AI surveillance network isn't why I'm against it. The conclusion of this article is that we need more humans in the loop for a successful police state.
For successful policing*. Which everyone should be for. edit: Every single thing you guys have replied with are policy/law debates, not enforcement debates. I disagree with many laws on the books today. I want the laws changed, not selective/arbitrary enforcement of them.
Should they? There's lots of things that are currently crimes that I don't believe should be crimes, so I have no reason to support policing in at least those cases.
Re: Woman pulled over twice after Flock-linked software connected her to homicide
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Police in the US should respond to the hilt because the likelihood of the suspect being armed is significantly higher than any other country...
If it’s so dangerous, perhaps we should find a way to better control the danger of firearms.
Yes and in the meantime, respond with all available resources?
(pretending my parents, wife, children are police officers and posting from that perspective, but do not like taste of boot nor Flock - just thinking logical on the ground procedure accounting for broken larger system)
Re: Woman pulled over twice after Flock-linked software connected her to homicide
#44The inaccuracy of our omniscient AI surveillance network isn't why I'm against it. The conclusion of this article is that we need more humans in the loop for a successful police state.
For successful policing*. Which everyone should be for. edit: Every single thing you guys have replied with are policy/law debates, not enforcement debates. I disagree with many laws on the books today. I want the laws changed, not selective/arbitrary enforcement of them.
Sure, if anyone could agree on a definition of success. Police forces don't even obey legislative bodies where their definition of success and the public's definition of success differs.
Re: Woman pulled over twice after Flock-linked software connected her to homicide
#45That's not a Flock error. That's a law enforcement error. Flock isn't responsible for a bogus warrant in the system. The woman probably has a good case for damages from the police department for doing it twice. That's sloppy police work.
No this is bad logic. Flock is absolutely responsible and they should not be releasing or selling products that are this poorly made.
Saying that the responsibility is only on the user is extremely myopic. It's also dismissing the role Flock has in how they make and design their software.
If they can't handle this maybe they should be disbanded as a company or nationalized for better public control.
Re: Woman pulled over twice after Flock-linked software connected her to homicide
#46One of my favorite parts of people wanting to hand power to AI is the way that it very obviously doesn't fucking work.
Re: Woman pulled over twice after Flock-linked software connected her to homicide
#47Why did they need to have guns drawn and that many cops, even if the flag had been correct? A car involved in a homicide investigation doesn't mean it's even being driven by the suspect. It's not a positive ID at all
I am currently in the countryside, outside of the USA. I speak to folks about the USA sometimes, and guns come up. We are known for that. They think they want them. I get it... they do sound cool. I try to explain that in the USA, the ratio of guns to people is far above 1:1. Therefore, if I was a police officer approaching any car, I would assume that the driver had a gun. That reality increases the chances of bad t…
> "Do you really want every speeding pull-over to become a wild-west situation? Maybe your kids are in the car!"
Why would every speeding pull-over become a wild-west situation? If possessing a gun is a right, then mere possession is no reason to suspect criminality is afoot.
Re: Woman pulled over twice after Flock-linked software connected her to homicide
#48The inaccuracy of our omniscient AI surveillance network isn't why I'm against it. The conclusion of this article is that we need more humans in the loop for a successful police state.
For successful policing*. Which everyone should be for. edit: Every single thing you guys have replied with are policy/law debates, not enforcement debates. I disagree with many laws on the books today. I want the laws changed, not selective/arbitrary enforcement of them.
Why should I be in favor of 100% successful policing? I don't accept the premise that all de facto law should be in line with de jure law. That sort of society is unprecedented
Re: Woman pulled over twice after Flock-linked software connected her to homicide
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Police in the US should respond to the hilt because the likelihood of the suspect being armed is significantly higher than any other country...
If it’s so dangerous, perhaps we should find a way to better control the danger of firearms.
Yes, firearms themselves present a clear and present danger by themselves. I'm sure once you make laws to control them, the firearms learn to stop being dangerous.
Re: Woman pulled over twice after Flock-linked software connected her to homicide
#50"an employee simply forgot to remove it."
And? That's all? This is why no one wants the gov't. to run things.