I have been using Opencode desktop, going to try out these other tools too
OpenChamber: An Agentic Development Environment
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Re: OpenChamber: An Agentic Development Environment
#42This looks very nice and well done. Good job! Okay, I'm going to have a tongue-in-cheek rant now. OpenChamber, OpenAI, Open WebUI, OpenDoor, Open weights, OpenTable, OpenClaw, Open This, Open That. We're increasingly diluting the meaning of the term, and "open source" more broadly, that we're at the point of OpenFatigue being a real concern here.
Increasingly? It sounds like you've never heard of the Open Group or open architecture. Some of the oldest uses are some of the weakest.
Re: OpenChamber: An Agentic Development Environment
#43I prefer Paseo https://github.com/getpaseo/paseo , mainly because I have specific preferences for different harness + model combinations. For example, I like using ChatGPT models via pi, and GLM via Claude Code. If you’re happy with OpenCode as the harness, OpenChamber is great. But if you prefer using different harnesses under the hood, Paseo is a better fit. I installed it on my homelab and can access the same sess…
this looks prettttttty slick i might dive in later. are people using these things but isolating agents to some sort of containerization individually or do you have like one big dev env ? probably time i get around to sorting a better dev container strategy just to isolate agents here but trying to think of the best way to set this up locally.
It’s just a personal preference, to be honest, so I wouldn’t overengineer it yet. In my case, I run it in a VM behind Tailscale. The main reason is that I want it to be able to install or use whatever tools it needs without contaminating my main machine. It can expose anything I need over Tailscale. So for me, it’s basically just a cheap, throwaway machine.
Re: OpenChamber: An Agentic Development Environment
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not? Both codex and Claude have remote from phone. I’m personally using cli + terminal from phone. I’m sure I’m not the only one.
Are there any Android remote terminal apps that don't suck on mobile? Termius is painful.
I’m using Termius.
It’s not great but it’s better than anything else I’ve tried.
Re: OpenChamber: An Agentic Development Environment
#45I'm using Orca recently for both coding and as a terminal and like it a lot, seems this is very similar, just tied to a single harness?
Orca is my main ADE too, but I haven't found any other users! What do you when done with a work tree? Just delete? I wish there was a middle ground of hiding it from the main panel, but keeping it for a week or so just in case I need to refer to something in the transcript...
Even though all these "ADE"s are mostly the exact same (Superset, T3, Conductor, Paseo,random Reddit-dude,etc.). I'm liking Orca largely because of the built in browser with ability to select an object(s), write a comment and send it back to the agent. I had built my own solution, but Orca makes it even easier and convenient.
Re: OpenChamber: An Agentic Development Environment
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not? Both codex and Claude have remote from phone. I’m personally using cli + terminal from phone. I’m sure I’m not the only one.
Tiny screen that can barely show any information and the awkward miniature keyboard that's slow to use and gives no feedback, it's a pretty awful way to do anything.
lately, i like to try to spend the morning talking through and framing up a few very detailed initiatives for parallel efforts that each spawn and orchestrate their own tasks, then feed them to /goals and go for a nice walk in the park, get some groceries, check in on the orchestrators and spawned tasks along the way, steer them from the phone.
so far it's been working pretty well for me in most cases, but not always. having a few parallel efforts in motion means that even if one goes off the rails, i can pause it and still make progress on the others, then fix it up when i get home.
Re: OpenChamber: An Agentic Development Environment
#47> development environment First screenshot is of a phone. Yeah I’m never installing a coding agent on my phone.
Why not? Both codex and Claude have remote from phone. I’m personally using cli + terminal from phone. I’m sure I’m not the only one.
Because I’m not putting work in my pocket.
Re: OpenChamber: An Agentic Development Environment
#48This looks very nice and well done. Good job! Okay, I'm going to have a tongue-in-cheek rant now. OpenChamber, OpenAI, Open WebUI, OpenDoor, Open weights, OpenTable, OpenClaw, Open This, Open That. We're increasingly diluting the meaning of the term, and "open source" more broadly, that we're at the point of OpenFatigue being a real concern here.
OpenSerious about these OpenStuff claiming to be Open but they are openly not. Looking at you OpenAI
Re: OpenChamber: An Agentic Development Environment
#49I wonder what JetBrains is doing. They had such a strong lead, but with the rise of AI, they seem to be heading down the same path as Stack Overflow.
Same thing. I've been using JetBrains IDEs for 25 years, and by now the keyboard shortcuts are hardwired into my fingers.
They fumbled the initial rollout with the way they gate-kept the agents behind their own subscription. I used Claude through its API pricing for a while, and the UI experience with the sidebar chat was so much better than the Claude CLI.
I could see the thought stream, click on artifacts, view diffs, etc. But it burned through tokens way too quickly, so I downgraded to the CLI agent.
At least I can use IDEA's inspections through the MCP server. It enables the agent to use the IDEA's index for navigation (finding usages, locating symbols, etc.)
Re: OpenChamber: An Agentic Development Environment
#50I prefer Paseo https://github.com/getpaseo/paseo , mainly because I have specific preferences for different harness + model combinations. For example, I like using ChatGPT models via pi, and GLM via Claude Code. If you’re happy with OpenCode as the harness, OpenChamber is great. But if you prefer using different harnesses under the hood, Paseo is a better fit. I installed it on my homelab and can access the same sess…
this looks prettttttty slick i might dive in later. are people using these things but isolating agents to some sort of containerization individually or do you have like one big dev env ? probably time i get around to sorting a better dev container strategy just to isolate agents here but trying to think of the best way to set this up locally.
I have a VM in which I run my general compute. In that VM I use incus linux container and run these tools as unauthorized user of the container. That should be reasonable security while having nice control for resources.