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An OpenAI Strategist Says AI Labs Should Rival Government Power

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Re: An OpenAI Strategist Says AI Labs Should Rival Government Power

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> Ball, who recently joined OpenAI as Head of Strategic Futures, has argued that frontier AI labs could become a “counterbalance to government.” Before joining the company, he described the organizations building the most advanced AI systems as a “new kind of institution under the sun.” Upvoted not because this is an agreeable idea, but so more people see their insanity for what it is.

These freaks need to be handled.

Re: An OpenAI Strategist Says AI Labs Should Rival Government Power

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Of course they think that. Everybody else should be revolted at that thought. We would point and laugh if they weren’t so serious about it, and if this were not resonating with some people in the current American government.

An astute reader of History could comment that they are just mirroring the structure of power in fascist dictatorships.

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It is good to see the real game being clarified, and openly admitted to.

Nothing about this technology makes it special. What’s allowing for such conversations is entirely traceable to unsupported claims made by the very companies now looking to cement their control by excluding themselves from all regulation.

A rival to global governmental power. That is the deranged, power hungry goal that is driving the shape of its technology.

Re: An OpenAI Strategist Says AI Labs Should Rival Government Power

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post #32

> Ball, who recently joined OpenAI as Head of Strategic Futures, has argued that frontier AI labs could become a “counterbalance to government.” Before joining the company, he described the organizations building the most advanced AI systems as a “new kind of institution under the sun.” Upvoted not because this is an agreeable idea, but so more people see their insanity for what it is.

No doubt. Government is already on the ropes in the struggle against billionaires and large industrial/resource-extraction lobbies. If anything, that’s what needs counterweight.

Re: An OpenAI Strategist Says AI Labs Should Rival Government Power

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Of course they think that. Everybody else should be revolted at that thought. We would point and laugh if they weren’t so serious about it, and if this were not resonating with some people in the current American government. An astute reader of History could comment that they are just mirroring the structure of power in fascist dictatorships.

I still point at laugh. Somebody has to. These people are insane and think they shouldn’t have to follow any rules.

Re: An OpenAI Strategist Says AI Labs Should Rival Government Power

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by this article's argument then government should be second to the power of Internet, telecom, electricity, and even water providers. Government can't do very much if the lights are off, communications don't work and the toilets don't flush. Yet all of those examples either live in fear of, are regulated by, the gov.

Yes, all those examples show that AI labs should be heavily regulated instead of given free rein.

Re: An OpenAI Strategist Says AI Labs Should Rival Government Power

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post #32

> Ball, who recently joined OpenAI as Head of Strategic Futures, has argued that frontier AI labs could become a “counterbalance to government.” Before joining the company, he described the organizations building the most advanced AI systems as a “new kind of institution under the sun.” Upvoted not because this is an agreeable idea, but so more people see their insanity for what it is.

Some of the people in the tech industry are, for lack of a better word, borderline insane. They forget how it was literally initial government investments into DARPA and other organizations that laid the foundation for the long ascendance of the tech industry in Northern California, aside from huge pool of talented people imported from mostly Asia. Even a good chunk of artificial neural network and "AI" research was…

And they are all on hackernews reading these comments, and often participating.

Re: An OpenAI Strategist Says AI Labs Should Rival Government Power

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This is the guy who said open weight models are “decelerationist” and will lead to “AI communism” and a “dystopian hellscape” so I’d categorize him more as an OpenAI spokesperson than a strategist. His takes always sound more like someone who chugged the kool aid rather than any kind of rational take. https://xcancel.com/deanwball/status/2078133895766114412

Open weights deter capex? Who cares!? Nvidia isn't paying me to increase Openai's capex. I want tokens, not capex. Am I misconstruing the argument?

It makes very little sense to regular people because he’s directing his argument to followers of “e/acc” who he assumes should support policies that mindlessly consolidate power and capital in AI “innovators” (aspiring monopolists to the rest of us). Otherwise, who else will give them their immortality mind uploads, full dive VR and the-movie-Her-but-real-life in a few years?
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