How much does rainmeter take? I used to load tons of widgets on it in my old laptop. Ahh those were the days
Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM
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Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM
#42At some point you just got to be amazed at it and celebrate.
Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM
#43This took me down a rabbit whole. Why can a simple single purpose app not be just a couple megabytes if not less? The popular options are electron 100MB+, or embedding python3 in your executable which is at least 40MB. But if you build it natively, you should have all of Microsoft tools at your disposition, dlls and such. In theory, this should allow you to make a 1 mb app or less. But in practice, it's the worse opt…
The visual assets alone will be tens of megabytes.
Do all visual aspects of a weather app need to be loaded at once? Is the cost penalty loading a hundred kilobytes per image from disk really unacceptable?
Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM
#44...you know, I keep reading all this stuff about memory prices, and it does suck, but memory is still much cheaper per gigabyte than it was ~15 years ago. Which matters because the things most consumers are doing on their computers haven't changed in the past 15 years. We browse the web, edit photos, message friends, and so on. AI generally runs on remote servers anyway. For years, everyone kept saying it was fine th…
But it's literally not cheaper than it was ~15 years ago? Right now RAM is the same price per GB as it was in 2007 and prices per GB look to continue to rise. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/scientist-say...
>Right now RAM is the same price per GB as it was in 2007 and prices per GB look to continue to rise.
...when looking at nominal prices (ie. not adjusted for inflation). If you adjust for that the furthest back you can go to get that price is 2011. What's more is that because RAM prices are subject to boom and bust cycles, that price has also been reached in 2015. So just by tweaking two parameters we went from 19 years (2007) to 11 years (2015).
Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM
#45And it also ads on it. Really Microsoft? Do you really need all the ads revenue from the weather app? What’s next? Ads on the start menu?
> What’s next? Ads on the start menu? They already exist: https://www.howtogeek.com/windows-11-start-menu-ads-how-to-t...
Don't they even had it earlyer and even let the DNS expire, so someone else could spam the startmenu?
Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM
#46...you know, I keep reading all this stuff about memory prices, and it does suck, but memory is still much cheaper per gigabyte than it was ~15 years ago. Which matters because the things most consumers are doing on their computers haven't changed in the past 15 years. We browse the web, edit photos, message friends, and so on. AI generally runs on remote servers anyway. For years, everyone kept saying it was fine th…
But it's literally not cheaper than it was ~15 years ago? Right now RAM is the same price per GB as it was in 2007 and prices per GB look to continue to rise. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/scientist-say...
Nobody would like to use DDR3 right now though, you can get cheap DDR3 DDR2 if you want some
Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
This has strong "How much could a banana cost? 10 dollars?" vibes. Back in my day 100MB was all you had for all your compute, and somehow programs still ran.
Back in my days, I had to remove the mouse driver from autoexec so that microprose grand pirx had 600kb of ram to start
Had to get a ride to drive floppies with corrected config.sys and autoexec.bat files around to friends.
Things weren’t actually worse.
Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM
#48And it also ads on it. Really Microsoft? Do you really need all the ads revenue from the weather app? What’s next? Ads on the start menu?
They do. Never forget, Microsoft's goal is to squeeze as much money from you as possible.
Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM
#49This took me down a rabbit whole. Why can a simple single purpose app not be just a couple megabytes if not less? The popular options are electron 100MB+, or embedding python3 in your executable which is at least 40MB. But if you build it natively, you should have all of Microsoft tools at your disposition, dlls and such. In theory, this should allow you to make a 1 mb app or less. But in practice, it's the worse opt…
The visual assets alone will be tens of megabytes.
Should be able to get by with using system graphics
Re: Windows 11's built-in Weather app wastes more than 1 GB of RAM
#50This took me down a rabbit whole. Why can a simple single purpose app not be just a couple megabytes if not less? The popular options are electron 100MB+, or embedding python3 in your executable which is at least 40MB. But if you build it natively, you should have all of Microsoft tools at your disposition, dlls and such. In theory, this should allow you to make a 1 mb app or less. But in practice, it's the worse opt…
The visual assets alone will be tens of megabytes.
Why, though? You need some icons and some map imagery, not 4K texture maps