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Another Corner of the Internet Has Been Ruined

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Re: Another Corner of the Internet Has Been Ruined

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Post by hskimse »

Tiberium wrote: post #37

I don't know if this website specifically did it, but a lot of other similar websites provide such services in a very bad way, for example base64encode.org and base64decode.org send your data to the server instead of using JS, and no one knows what they do with it. I do understand that some still prefer browsers with JS disabled, but a website could probably detect this and default to in-browser processing, while res…

That's surprising. Isn't that a quite famous service? Is there a service implemented using only clientside js without sending?

Re: Another Corner of the Internet Has Been Ruined

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Post by pixl97 »

Tiberium wrote: post #25
pixl97 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, I've seen HN detecting AI written articles at a 300 to 500% rate, like that time they were saying an article originally written in 2015 was by AI. So do this, if you think it's AI written send a complaint to the hackernews email address to have it removed. If you don't want to do that, don't spam up the comments calling articles AI. And those AI detectors are hot worthless garbage. Just like YouTube detecting…

Can you show some examples of Pangram being "hot worthless garbage"? This reputation is true for most other detectors, but Pangram spends considerable effort to have an extremely low false positive rate. I think you just used some of them in 2023 and now think that they can't be made better.

Language is a living thing. At one time saying 'cool' to mean something was neat wasn't a thing. Then someone used it that way and it spread throughout humanity (or least English speakers in the US).

This means as people use AI and read AI we'll start speaking like AI just as much as AI speaks like us. ESL people tend to have it even worse as they commonly speak a more proper subset of English and get identified as AI quite often.

The Panagram CEO was saying some rather dumb shit recently that they have high detection rates of AI because they can put in documents from X years ago and they are not detected as AI. This tells you absolutely nothing about if a recently written document is human or AI written at all!

Total snake oil.

Re: Another Corner of the Internet Has Been Ruined

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Post by aleksejs »

I'm not sure I understand the intended message here. The author seems to describe their own project as "cover[ed] ... with invasive advertising" while saying that new technology accomplishes the same outcomes "faster, cheaper, and [with less maintenance burden]". So what exactly has been ruined?

Re: Another Corner of the Internet Has Been Ruined

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Post by oxinai »

jubilanti wrote: post #5

There was someone on HN who shared a collection of dozens of single purpose local/offline web apps for things like file conversions, I think image cropping, and other one-offs like that. Anyone remember? Nice thing about local PWAs is you serve them statically, CDNs make bandwidth cheap, way fewer vulnerabilities for the host, and all the compute cost is paid by the user's browser.

IT-Tools, maybe? https://github.com/CorentinTh/it-tools

Re: Another Corner of the Internet Has Been Ruined

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Post by udontknojack »

Tiberium wrote: post #22
stickfigure wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have no idea. Stop it.

If you cannot see that the linked text is LLM written, I've got bad news for you.

It is so obviously AI that it is scary how duped these morons have become. I guess HN is another corner of the internet ruined... which is what I initially thought this headline was going to be about. HN has been absolutely destroyed by the ignorant reddit hivemind type.

Re: Another Corner of the Internet Has Been Ruined

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Post by pixl97 »

Twiin wrote: post #39
Tiberium wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you show some examples of Pangram being "hot worthless garbage"? This reputation is true for most other detectors, but Pangram spends considerable effort to have an extremely low false positive rate. I think you just used some of them in 2023 and now think that they can't be made better.

I put your initial comment into Pangram and it said "We believe that this entire text is AI." So.

The fact that anyone as any faith in an AI language detector at all blows my mind. It seems that every AI detector that gets productized gets as bad as the AI CEOs themselves and starts making claims their products cannot accomplish. They try to sell it as a black and white detection product while covering up the error bars are huge.
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