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Re: USA Today Co., partners with Palantir to analyze audience data

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I dislike USA Today. It feels like lowest common denominator fluffy news. Also, I remember staying at a hotel once where they delivered one to every guest room.

They always have been. A few times I've read it and I was always disappointed. They are about all that is left though. I keep looking for someone with real reporters who cover my local area and I can't find it. Just big city papers that have an edition for my area but no reporters to dig into local stories.

Does your local NPR station (or even PBS) have local journalists? Obviously their primary formats aren’t written, but my local NPR has a fantastic website also.

Re: USA Today Co., partners with Palantir to analyze audience data

#42

I dislike USA Today. It feels like lowest common denominator fluffy news. Also, I remember staying at a hotel once where they delivered one to every guest room.

USA Today is news written for 5th graders. It has always been a waste of time and paper for anyone who really wants to know what's going on.

The people who can only read at a 5th grade level are precisely the people who need to be more informed about what's going on

Re: USA Today Co., partners with Palantir to analyze audience data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does a newspaper need "actionable intelligence" for?

To quote the CEO, "that allows us to engage users more effectively and monetize those relationships faster and at much greater value." So they view their readers as something to be monetized. Not to be educated, not to be intellectually stimulated, not to have their questions answered, not to have their curiosity satisfied, not to provide them with anything a newspaper traditionally did. Nope, they are just a source…

I immediately thought they might be trying to de-anonymize article Commenters. Maybe I'm being too paranoid.

Re: USA Today Co., partners with Palantir to analyze audience data

#45
Search traffic is failing for everyone because of AI, you don't need a billion dollars to figure that out.

Surprised we haven't yet seen paid advertisement interwoven into news article text in a way that feeds AI scrapers yet, wouldn't it be nice to drink a Coke right now?

There's no law that says you have to disclose advertisement to chatbots, so you could mark it up in a way that only humans see the disclosure and poison the bot to remind everyone that not only are we at war with Iran, but Coca-Cola is still America's favorite soft drink.

Re: USA Today Co., partners with Palantir to analyze audience data

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USA Today is news written for 5th graders. It has always been a waste of time and paper for anyone who really wants to know what's going on.

The people who can only read at a 5th grade level are precisely the people who need to be more informed about what's going on

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Re: USA Today Co., partners with Palantir to analyze audience data

#47
post #8

Let's also remember: https://techcrunch.com/2026/04/15/can-ai-judge-journalism-a-... Objection (objection.ai), which proposes to apply AI to “adjudicate the truth of journalism.” Pay $2,000 to contest allegations in a published story or various social media sources.

How is this relevant?

It's a Thiel product, and the subject here is Palantir and media. Ideological adjacencies in media affairs seems relevant to me at such high levels of influence and power integrations.

But I must ask: in the anti eth0 club, or is this a genuine question?

If that is not a fair question, maybe show me evidence supporting a falsifiable general rule showing that all, or the majority of comments in HN threads contain strictly directly related comments -- or at least something showing most HN threads show non-directly related comments being challenged consistently, perhaps by yourself. This would help.

On a deeper level...

As a rogue journalist, I research many things. In this case, I have been researching both Palantir and Thiel, particularly products and things funded by Theil, particularly certain YouTube influencer channels.

My research shows certain contradictions of proclaimed values that very much interest me, such as Thiel Capital support of American Alchemy, which heavily promotes "neuro divergence" and an entire category of ideas that his partner, Alex Karp severely criticizes. Karp has made openly contemptuous claims on "neuro divergence" and drugs, while Thiel Capital is affiliated with American Alchemy, which is not modestly adamant on the subject, but hyper adamant, and promotes what some might call "conspiracy" related material.

However, when you have such individuals deeply connected with the Pentagon, and Law Enforcement, with verifiable influence, profiling abilities, and much more, this is something I take very seriously. As a 'journalist', I tend to see connections. I am sure you resent this, but despite an often rough approach, they have yet to fail in final synthesis. So that is what I am actually thinking, when I leave such posts.

Re: USA Today Co., partners with Palantir to analyze audience data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

USA Today is news written for 5th graders. It has always been a waste of time and paper for anyone who really wants to know what's going on.

The people who can only read at a 5th grade level are precisely the people who need to be more informed about what's going on

Why? They mostly don't do anything very impactful. Voting and other civic engagement is very low amongst the illiterate.

Re: USA Today Co., partners with Palantir to analyze audience data

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To quote the CEO, "that allows us to engage users more effectively and monetize those relationships faster and at much greater value." So they view their readers as something to be monetized. Not to be educated, not to be intellectually stimulated, not to have their questions answered, not to have their curiosity satisfied, not to provide them with anything a newspaper traditionally did. Nope, they are just a source…

I immediately thought they might be trying to de-anonymize article Commenters. Maybe I'm being too paranoid.

Oh, I'm sure they are doing that too. Something else they think they can monetize (never mind that most of them are probably bots).

Re: USA Today Co., partners with Palantir to analyze audience data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people who can only read at a 5th grade level are precisely the people who need to be more informed about what's going on

Why? They mostly don't do anything very impactful. Voting and other civic engagement is very low amongst the illiterate.

not talking about illiteracy, ~50% of americans read at a 6th grade level or below... that's certainly enough to make an impact, the 2024 election was decided by ~250k votes across 3 states... Michigan specifically has a reading level below national average
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