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balk is the American spelling of baulk, meaning to hesitate, stop short, or refuse to proceed due to reluctance, fear, or an obstacle. "He got personal visits from both Ballmer and Gates that pressured him to stay with Microsoft but did not balk" can be rephrased as "He was pressured by Microsoft [to stay with Windows] but that pressure did not cause him to hesitate [with switching to Linux]."

If he did not balk that means he did not refuse. Which means he complied. What he did not do was comply/capitulate/etc.

Merriam-Webster has balk as to stop short and refuse to proceed. To understand the intended meaning, put the emphasis on the first part: If the mayor did not balk, he did not stop, that is, he refused to comply and proceeded with his plan.

Re: libexpat now funded by the City of Munich for up to 6 months

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Baulk - refuse to comply

> He got personal visits from both Ballmer and Gates that pressured him to stay with Microsoft[2] but did not balk. So he did not refuse to comply, i.e. complied? I think the parent is right: Grandparent probably meant "he did not budge".

Per Merriam-Webster, 'to balk' means:

1: to refuse abruptly

2: to stop short and refuse to proceed

Per Cambridge Dictionary, it means:

to be unwilling to do something or to allow something to happen

So "He did not balk" can be read as "He did not stop" / "He was willing to let things proceed"

Re: libexpat now funded by the City of Munich for up to 6 months

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> PS: If anyone managed to combine Clang-based MinGW with AddressSanitizer and Wine without crashing at launch, please show me how and drop me an e-mail. Thank you! It's for problems like these that I have been working at cross and native Windows support in the Nix ecosystem

I'm curious. Do you have more information?

Re: libexpat now funded by the City of Munich for up to 6 months

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The longer background is that Christian Ude our mayor until 2014 furthered the LiMux[1] project - migrating more than 14000 PCs in public administration to Linux. He got personal visits from both Ballmer and Gates that pressured him to stay with Microsoft[2] but did not balk. Unfortunately his successor caved to Microsoft's siren song abolished LiMux and Microsoft got a nice campus in the city (they used to be at the…

I have very little hope in Krause. He is just a populist and an opportunistic politician without much substance behind. Personally I couldn’t care less which operating system the city chooses to use as long as it helps to save costs and increase efficiency. Bureaucracy is extremely high and ideology driven, permissions take too long to be granted and populist projects are taking money away from families and their you…

> Personally I couldn’t care less which operating system the city chooses to use as long as it helps to save costs and increase efficiency.

It's your personal opinion so that's fine, but that's exactly the thinking that got us into other hard to detangle dependencies before (gas from russia was cheap and efficient, until it got turned off) and that's the same for building up an even bigger dependency on Microsoft and other large US vendors when many other European countries like France are investiging heavily into building up European alternatives.

Re: libexpat now funded by the City of Munich for up to 6 months

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post #36

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I have very little hope in Krause. He is just a populist and an opportunistic politician without much substance behind. Personally I couldn’t care less which operating system the city chooses to use as long as it helps to save costs and increase efficiency. Bureaucracy is extremely high and ideology driven, permissions take too long to be granted and populist projects are taking money away from families and their you…

> Personally I couldn’t care less which operating system the city chooses to use as long as it helps to save costs and increase efficiency. It's your personal opinion so that's fine, but that's exactly the thinking that got us into other hard to detangle dependencies before (gas from russia was cheap and efficient, until it got turned off) and that's the same for building up an even bigger dependency on Microsoft and…

Comparing one of the core strategic resources of any society (energy) and microsoft office suite in the same sentence is a bit silly no?

Microsoft Word is absolutely not a core strategic asset to your countries economic success. You could easily migrate off of it tomorrow and everything would be fine, minus some banal feature gaps in LibreOffice/etc. Nobody will die in the winter and there will be no food shortages (EU is fertilizer dependent) if Microsoft shuts off your access to creating PowerPoints.

The fact that there’s more effort being put into building EU alternatives for Microsoft Office than energy security, tells you how unserious and out of touch the political class truly is.

And Microsoft office is just the very very top of the stack (the easiest to vibe code alternatives to). What about the operating systems, the hardware, for which there is no EU alternative for? And it’s not just the US you need to worry about, all of computing depends on physical manufacturing in China/Taiwan. China could cut off access tomorrow and there’d be no more computers/phones/comms infrastructure/etc. That’s an actual real threat.

As someone living in the EU, the saber rattling for domestic political points between the US and the EU is one of the dumbest memes and is resulting is real tax money being spent on the silliest of projects. Migrating off microsoft while their entire business model is being made irrelevant by AI, being one of them. Meanwhile, the stuff that actually matters for sovereignty and isn't surface level BS is of course ignored (energy, resources, mining) in favor of handouts to companies for domestic manufacturing of weapons that aren't even relevant for modern war.

Re: libexpat now funded by the City of Munich for up to 6 months

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he did not balk that means he did not refuse. Which means he complied. What he did not do was comply/capitulate/etc.

Merriam-Webster has balk as to stop short and refuse to proceed . To understand the intended meaning, put the emphasis on the first part: If the mayor did not balk, he did not stop, that is, he refused to comply and proceeded with his plan.

> Merriam-Webster has balk as to stop short and refuse to proceed. To understand the intended meaning, put the emphasis on the first part: If the mayor did not balk, he did not stop, that is, he refused to comply and proceeded with his plan.

I feel like one of us is extremely confused.

"Balk" = "stop" = "refuse to proceed", right?

So " balk" = " stop" = " refuse to proceed", right?

" refuse to proceed" with Microsoft's proposal therefore means he in fact complied with Microsoft's proposal and did proceed with it, right?

Re: libexpat now funded by the City of Munich for up to 6 months

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> He got personal visits from both Ballmer and Gates that pressured him to stay with Microsoft[2] but did not balk. So he did not refuse to comply, i.e. complied? I think the parent is right: Grandparent probably meant "he did not budge".

Per Merriam-Webster, 'to balk' means: 1: to refuse abruptly 2: to stop short and refuse to proceed Per Cambridge Dictionary, it means: to be unwilling to do something or to allow something to happen So "He did not balk" can be read as "He did not stop" / "He was willing to let things proceed"

> Per Cambridge Dictionary, it means: to be unwilling to do something

You agree balking means being unwilling, right?

So not balking means being willing, right?

He did not balk, therefore he was not unwilling, therefore he was willing, right?

So he was willing to do what Microsoft asked, "but" so was the next guy? What?

Re: libexpat now funded by the City of Munich for up to 6 months

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> The City of Munich follows the principle of Public Money, Public Code: Whenever possible, software developed in-house should be released as open source. The goal is not only to ensure the city’s own IT security but also to enable others to reuse the software securely, transparently, and in a traceable way.[1]

[1] https://opensource.muenchen.de/security.html

Re: libexpat now funded by the City of Munich for up to 6 months

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post #24

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Thanks for highlighting. I just realized this is open to developers who aren't city employees, which is unique. A city can pay a vendor for a deliverable, but paying an outside individual to improve something the city doesn't own is interesting (to say the least)

Smells of favoritism and corruption and lack of priorities is what it does. This guy must know someone. I doubt that of everything the city of Munich depends on, an xml parser even registers as a thing that needs money. And if it did then you'd have to have given similar to so much more things already.

Agreed, they should hire an army of consultants to select a proprietary software replacement that the city will pay for but not own, having to pay ongoing license fees for ongoing use. Much more efficient ant fair that way.

Re: libexpat now funded by the City of Munich for up to 6 months

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post #44

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> Personally I couldn’t care less which operating system the city chooses to use as long as it helps to save costs and increase efficiency. It's your personal opinion so that's fine, but that's exactly the thinking that got us into other hard to detangle dependencies before (gas from russia was cheap and efficient, until it got turned off) and that's the same for building up an even bigger dependency on Microsoft and…

Comparing one of the core strategic resources of any society (energy) and microsoft office suite in the same sentence is a bit silly no? Microsoft Word is absolutely not a core strategic asset to your countries economic success. You could easily migrate off of it tomorrow and everything would be fine, minus some banal feature gaps in LibreOffice/etc. Nobody will die in the winter and there will be no food shortages (…

Unfortunately you're singing to deaf ears. I totally agree with you regarding the current drama about EU sovereignty. Being sovereign is amazing, but at the moment EU is doing it for all the wrong reasons. It's more like cut dependency on US while moving towards China and I wonder what kind of a sovereignty that is. Also I saw the other day an announcement from NextCloud that they can now run the new Euro office or whatever its called on their cloud, and that would have been exciting if we were living in 2010.

What's happening is that all those private companies are getting tax payers money from EU to come-up with some janky alternative to a US software and label it as sovereign and pocket the money. It's quite funny that Europeans are still discussing on what alternative they can use for MS Office in 2026 while the rest of the world is researching on frontier AI

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