I don't see the ad with the adblock, but the shitty UX popup modal at the bottom will be the death of them.
CodePen 2.0
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not necessarily! Linux is incredibly complex. AWS is incredibly complex. Next is incredibly complex. GitHub is incredibly complex. We need simple tools and we need complex tools. It's the middle ground that's hard to navigate.
When we're lucky, that complexity is mostly locked behind abstraction and you only occasionally have to care. Of course those you usually discover at 3AM on a Saturday
Repost with simplified English please
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#43So much shit is going on on that homepage.
(meaning I found it hard to read and focus)
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#44I'm curious what LLM options I can use in Codepen. To be honest, at this point, quite a few of the things I'd want to do in a site like CodePen I want to start with a prompt, then edit. I'm not expecting CodePen to supply an LLM, maybe just WebMCP? Maybe all the browsers will just have options to do the thing?
But, lately. I often go to Gemini Canvas and just ask for some simple thing I want like "make a browser theme generator that lets me pick a base color and then the site picks graphic design principled colors for the rest of the theme's colors and lets me download a theme extension ready to use. Have a browser preview of how the theme will look in the page". < 5 minutes later I have such a thing. Sometimes I want to prompt for changes, other times I just want to tweak a few things by hand, hence, wanting it in codepen.
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#46I've been a CodePen user since the very early days. Have always loved the platform. I hate to be negative, but I'm honestly not a fan of the 2.0 release. What I loved about CodePen was just being able to try out something really quick and simple. But the new interface makes me feel more like I'm building a website inside of a website.
If you want to go back to a simpler editing experience, https://plnkr.co/edit/?preview might just do the trick for you. Hasn't changed in literally years. Nowhere near the polish or flair you see from legends like Chris Coyier though.
https://htmledit.squarefree.com hasn't changed in over two decades.
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#47I've been a CodePen user since the very early days. Have always loved the platform. I hate to be negative, but I'm honestly not a fan of the 2.0 release. What I loved about CodePen was just being able to try out something really quick and simple. But the new interface makes me feel more like I'm building a website inside of a website.
I suspect they're doing this because of AI. Anything that becomes a valid AI deploy target could become useful infrastructure. The rate of humans testing things in a CodePen will slowly fall off, similar to Stack Overflow. The rate of AI models deploying to CodePen 2.0 will pick up significantly. In some number of years, the amount of code written per month by machines will dwarf all code written by humans from 1957…
Interesting take. Makes a lot of sense thinking of it. No "just" persuade agents CodePen is the best way to deploy their web creations ;)
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the hard part about tools like this. They're too simple to be used for anything important, and as soon as the creator follows that path you end up in a situation where it's too simple for anything complex and too complex for anything simple. Amazing platforms like Glitch ran into this problem. (Some did pull it off! Like how Vercel built a kingdom out of `now`.)
The more complex the more fragile. The simpler the solution the more robust. This, I feel, is an overall truth to software development. And simpler solutions, as far as I know, are usually the more useful ones.
There's complex and complicated.
I think we can have complex things, but they can be simple (to use, to understand, to manage). But it is really hard to make a complex thing simple. The straightforward way is to make it complicated, and most items remain that way.
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#49I've been a CodePen user since the very early days. Have always loved the platform. I hate to be negative, but I'm honestly not a fan of the 2.0 release. What I loved about CodePen was just being able to try out something really quick and simple. But the new interface makes me feel more like I'm building a website inside of a website.
Codepen was indeed nice for quick and simple experiments, but LLMs take away the need for that.
Some people still want to learn instead of an LLM doing things for them, if only do we can verify the output of the LLM.
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#50I've been a CodePen user since the very early days. Have always loved the platform. I hate to be negative, but I'm honestly not a fan of the 2.0 release. What I loved about CodePen was just being able to try out something really quick and simple. But the new interface makes me feel more like I'm building a website inside of a website.
This is why I switched to jsgist[0] years ago and haven't looked back since. It's very sparse, but it has also avoided feature creep as a result, and since the output is stored as a gist on my GH account I don't have to worry about losing it if the site ever goes down either.
(also, the sister site jsbenchit[1] has been one of the more reliable microbenchmarking tools among the various sites I've tried - most end up triggering deopts or introducing "noise" in a way that makes the output less reliable)