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Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by gertop » Tue, Jul 28, 2026, 8:18 PM UTC

bluebarbet wrote: post #12

dvh wrote: post #4

Why not sell phones?

This is surely the closest to a solution we have, IMO. An alternative to the Android-iOS duopoly that involves futzing with cables and command lines is never going to go mainstream. By contrast, a vertically integrated FOSS(ish) hardware-software stack might eventually get to 5% market share, like desktop Linux. At which point companies and governments will be forced to take software freedom slightly more seriously.…

> An alternative to the Android-iOS duopoly that involves futzing with cables and command lines is never going to go mainstream

All you need to install graphene is a web browser and USB cable.

> By contrast, a vertically integrated FOSS(ish) hardware-software stack might eventually get to 5% market share, like desktop Linux

Those exists. They've never gained traction. If you think graphene is too much tinkering, you'll be traumatised by that landscape.

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by chasil » Tue, Jul 28, 2026, 8:23 PM UTC

If I donate, can we get the Lineage keyboard with all the symbols in the same places?

I'd actually love to have the Holo keyboard back. That was my favorite.

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by rambojohnson » Tue, Jul 28, 2026, 8:23 PM UTC

imzadi wrote: post #6

I got a Pixel 10 during prime day and installed GrapheneOS with Cape for the provider. So far, it's been mostly great. The only setback, for me, is the lack of support for tap to pay. I haven't been able to get any wallet app to work. I keep my iphone with minimal service mainly to still have tap to pay and do facetime with my book club.

place your debit card on the backside of your phone via a case pocket. a lot of cards these days support tap to pay.

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by joecot » Tue, Jul 28, 2026, 8:27 PM UTC

dvh wrote: post #4

Why not sell phones?

Motorola will be releasing phones compatible with GrapheneOS, though it's unclear if they will ship with GrapheneOS.

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jul 28, 2026, 8:31 PM UTC

imzadi wrote: post #6

I got a Pixel 10 during prime day and installed GrapheneOS with Cape for the provider. So far, it's been mostly great. The only setback, for me, is the lack of support for tap to pay. I haven't been able to get any wallet app to work. I keep my iphone with minimal service mainly to still have tap to pay and do facetime with my book club.

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Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by canada_dry » Tue, Jul 28, 2026, 8:37 PM UTC

Here's hoping Pixel releases a flip phone 11 and Graphene support follows.

The Motorola razr has crease issues that they seem to want to ignore and Samsung has locked down their phones so root is impractical.

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by bluebarbet » Tue, Jul 28, 2026, 8:38 PM UTC

gertop wrote: post #41

bluebarbet wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is surely the closest to a solution we have, IMO. An alternative to the Android-iOS duopoly that involves futzing with cables and command lines is never going to go mainstream. By contrast, a vertically integrated FOSS(ish) hardware-software stack might eventually get to 5% market share, like desktop Linux. At which point companies and governments will be forced to take software freedom slightly more seriously.…

> An alternative to the Android-iOS duopoly that involves futzing with cables and command lines is never going to go mainstream All you need to install graphene is a web browser and USB cable. > By contrast, a vertically integrated FOSS(ish) hardware-software stack might eventually get to 5% market share, like desktop Linux Those exists. They've never gained traction. If you think graphene is too much tinkering, you'…

>All you need to install graphene is a web browser and USB cable.

Outside a section of the Western middle class, ordinary people in 2026 only own one computer and it's in their pocket.

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by johndoyle » Tue, Jul 28, 2026, 8:39 PM UTC

handedness wrote: post #18

giantg2 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why Cape instead of Phreeli?

As honeypots go (I'm only joking, well, half -joking), Cape's pretty great on a lot of levels. I'm glad Cape has competition and hope Phreeli succeeds, but the time when I'd happily contribute to anything he starts is long gone. The substantial credibility he genuinely earned has finally been fully spent, at least for me, but I do hope it becomes a viable option.

I appreciate this joke :)

John CEO of Cape

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by handedness » Tue, Jul 28, 2026, 8:43 PM UTC

johndoyle wrote: post #48

handedness wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As honeypots go (I'm only joking, well, half -joking), Cape's pretty great on a lot of levels. I'm glad Cape has competition and hope Phreeli succeeds, but the time when I'd happily contribute to anything he starts is long gone. The substantial credibility he genuinely earned has finally been fully spent, at least for me, but I do hope it becomes a viable option.

I appreciate this joke :) John CEO of Cape

Half-appreciated it, I hope.

Is there any hope of Verizon's network being added to your coverage? I spend a lot of time in pretty remote places and Cape's coverage is up there with its pricing in terms of being a major barrier to retention.

Re: Donate to GrapheneOS

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Post by hootz » Tue, Jul 28, 2026, 8:45 PM UTC

I would if I could even use their OS. Pixel phones are not available in my country and to import them is to pay 3x the amount I would spend on another phone.