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Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

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Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

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This investment has never been secret.

Google (now under parent company Alphabet) invested roughly $900 million as the majority of a ~$1 billion funding round alongside Fidelity Investments. This gave Google an initial equity stake of about 7–7.5% in SpaceX at a valuation of roughly $10–12 billion.

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

from your list, I think only Google has moat and something I would short least. Google has hardware, software ecosystem, mobile ecosystem, controls browser, has access to 2B+ users, has talent to come up with ideas - perfect spot for AI

Now Microsoft, them I'd short. In a way I have by starting my own company to undermine their various competitive advantages comprehensively

Concur; I am shorting them as well. Your approach is more clever!

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/30/elon-musk... For example.

It is extremely funny that Epstein is clearly all “oh, fuck, not this guy, gotta make an excuse”, here.

I'm not seeing it.

> “Will be in the BVI/St Bart’s area over the holidays. Is there a good time to visit?” Musk states on 13 December 2013.

> “any day 1st - 8th . play it by ear if you want. always space for you,” Epstein replies.

> Musk then sends several emails relaying his schedule, and the two settle on 2 January as a date for the visit. The email exchange ends with Epstein telling Musk that he would need to remain in New York and sending his regrets that they could not meet.

> “Bad news- Unfortunately , my schedule will keep me in New York . I was really looking forward to finally spending some time together with just fun as the agenda. so i am very disappointed. Hopefully we can schedule another time in the near future,” Epstein wrote.

> In November 2012, Epstein sent Musk an email asking “how many people will you be for the heli to island”.

> “Probably just Talulah and me. What day/night will be the wildest party on your island?” Musk replied, in an apparent reference to his former wife Talulah Riley.

> Musk followed up with an email on 25 December in response to another Epstein message that encouraged him to visit and offered use of his helicopter.

> “Do you have any parties planned? I’ve been working to the edge of sanity this year and so, once my kids head home after Christmas, I really want to hit the party scene in St Barts or elsewhere and let loose. The invitation is much appreciated, but a peaceful island experience is the opposite of what I’m looking for,” Musk wrote.

> “Understood , I will see you on st Barth, the ratio on my island might make Talilah uncomfortable,” Epstein responded.

> “Ratio is not a problem for Talulah,” Musk said.

> On 2 January 2013, Musk sent Epstein an email suggesting that the visit wouldn’t take place saying: “Logistics won’t work this time around.”

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

#44

I am short both Google and SpaceX RN; SpaceX's IPO smells foul. Google is an AI-bubble short; Anthropic and OpenAI haven't IPOed yet.

Google is not a good short. They are actually one of the companies that will likely come out on top when the AI-bubble has popped.

Anthropic and OpenAI though will likely be dead, killed by cheap open weight LLMs and local LLMs.

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

#45

I am short both Google and SpaceX RN; SpaceX's IPO smells foul. Google is an AI-bubble short; Anthropic and OpenAI haven't IPOed yet.

Not sure why you'd short Google. Their business was doing great pre-AI, and will likely do great regardless of what happens to AI. The rumors of their demise when AI hit the scene were clearly greatly exaggerated.

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

#46
post #29

I am short both Google and SpaceX RN; SpaceX's IPO smells foul. Google is an AI-bubble short; Anthropic and OpenAI haven't IPOed yet.

Short Google? Early is wrong you know?

That’s a pretty weird take considering they’re down 21% in the last 2 months. How, exactly, is this early?

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

from your list, I think only Google has moat and something I would short least. Google has hardware, software ecosystem, mobile ecosystem, controls browser, has access to 2B+ users, has talent to come up with ideas - perfect spot for AI

Now Microsoft, them I'd short. In a way I have by starting my own company to undermine their various competitive advantages comprehensively

The number of companies that default to using Teams shows why MSFT isn't going anywhere.

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

#48
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FIFY: Google discloses $94B loss

They didn't invest 94B$ But yes the stock could go down much further and I hope they are willing to show the losses if they can show this as gains today. Imagine the next call being about how their 95$B went to sub 30B$.. Will that be a negative line item. I don't see the point in disclosing this stake as earnings. But I do get that accounting was made as a tool for companies to show off.

Accounting goes back thousands of years. It was not made as a tool to show off. Lesson is more that tools can be abused for other purposes than intended.

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

#49

This investment has never been secret. Google (now under parent company Alphabet) invested roughly $900 million as the majority of a ~$1 billion funding round alongside Fidelity Investments. This gave Google an initial equity stake of about 7–7.5% in SpaceX at a valuation of roughly $10–12 billion.

Remember this was also when SpaceX was actually about space, instead of mostly AI and Twitter. Long-term shareholders that were sold on the space, have to be thinking about how to get out once their lockups expire.

Re: Google Discloses $94.1B in SpaceX Stock, Marking 6% Stake

#50
post #45

I am short both Google and SpaceX RN; SpaceX's IPO smells foul. Google is an AI-bubble short; Anthropic and OpenAI haven't IPOed yet.

Not sure why you'd short Google. Their business was doing great pre-AI, and will likely do great regardless of what happens to AI. The rumors of their demise when AI hit the scene were clearly greatly exaggerated.

There is quite a bit of information out there as to how Google is achieving short term growth in their core search business. And boy, it is ugly. It does not signal long term continued growth.
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