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Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

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Re: Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

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Post by porksoda »

chaps wrote: post #31
Cider9986 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flock has a large amount of popular stories here, there's no conspiracy. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Principle of charity, friend; that's not really what's at-issue here. The post was on the front page one minute and the next it was shoved deep to the back. That aint right.

Possibly because many people are so bored with this old flock story. What this silly man says is meaningless to me at least. I'm sure the Americans will sort it out. In time.

Re: Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

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Post by chaps »

porksoda wrote: post #41
chaps wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Principle of charity, friend; that's not really what's at-issue here. The post was on the front page one minute and the next it was shoved deep to the back. That aint right.

Possibly because many people are so bored with this old flock story. What this silly man says is meaningless to me at least. I'm sure the Americans will sort it out. In time.

Like I told dang in his response to my email:

Believe me, I'm tired of hearing about it too. But when it's used to deport my friends, it's important for me to hear about.

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I hope you can understand why it's aggravating to hear that the tools used to deport my friends are "boring".

Re: Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

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Post by Freedom2 »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #24
josefritzishere wrote: post #10

American's don't want to live under constant surveillance, inside an open air prison. That idea should not be hard to understand.

Many people want surveillance on other people that they're afraid of, or have been told to be afraid of. Some openly want to try to establish that asymmetry. Others are willing to unthinkingly submit to surveillance themselves as long as it surveils their perceived enemies.

Do you happen to have any evidence of this? I've spoken to a few people in mid-west US and they are strongly opposed to any surveillance of their communities of any kind.

Re: Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

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Post by stevenwoo »

newaccountman2 wrote: post #38
stevenwoo wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has it? My impression is in the USA the start was the normalization of "on our side or the enemy" polarization started with Newt Gingrich into ordinary sedate (for the time period) political debate and was weaponized in the aftermath of 9/11 when any criticism of Bush/Cheney actions was reframed as what side is one questions in the 'war on terrorism' with the implied positioning of any opposition as pro terrorism. I…

> The first authoritarian regime that might come to mind to most after the French Revolution, the Nazis, ?? you think no government between the French Revolution government and the Nazis could qualify as "authoritarian"?

No, I tried to express with the word “might” and the phrase “come to mind” as indications of what people could come up with on the spur of the moment without delving into research. I did not intend what you wrote.

Re: Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

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Post by wrs »

stevenwoo wrote: post #33
wrs wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be precise, he thinks they're anti-authoritarian, for which "terrorist" is the long-established authoritarian code word.

Has it? My impression is in the USA the start was the normalization of "on our side or the enemy" polarization started with Newt Gingrich into ordinary sedate (for the time period) political debate and was weaponized in the aftermath of 9/11 when any criticism of Bush/Cheney actions was reframed as what side is one questions in the 'war on terrorism' with the implied positioning of any opposition as pro terrorism. I…

Here are some recent examples from Russia, Turkey, and Egypt. [0]

[0] https://www.hstoday.us/featured/how-autocrats-exploit-the-de...

Re: Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

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Post by close04 »

perbu wrote: post #21
close04 wrote: post #4

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What has Flock ever done for the US people? At least the Chinese Police State lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty next to the terrible things they’ve done. I’m saying this only part jokingly but one has to wonder where exactly are all the real benefits promised by those sinking the US deeper and deeper in surveillance.

The Chinese lifted themselves put of poverty. The state just stopped keeping them down. The people deserve the credit. Not the state.

A billion people just decided to organize ad-hoc and lift themselves out of poverty in a country where to this day the state plans everything in 5 years plans? I’m not saying “the state” did all the work but you don’t seem to know much about China or how large groups of people work.

Have you seen anyone in the US take credit for the thousands of deaths the US caused around the world? Same goes for any other country in a similar situation. The people only get credit for the good stuff?

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