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Re: Telegram Serverless

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This is off-topic, but I was kind of surprised to see this page written by Claude. I guess I shouldn't really be surprised, but I somehow didn't expect it.

Out of curiosity - how did you figure this out? I cannot find any hints about that. Was it the language used?

Have you ever “wired” anything to anything else when developing software? No, because software doesn’t involve wires, but LLMs are quite convinced that it does.

Re: Telegram Serverless

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I don't see anything about pricing.

The lack of a clear business model does make me hesitate in building anything substantial on it.

Supposedly Telegram has been profitable since 2024 but there's crypto stuff mixed in there so it's hard to know how stable that is.

Re: Telegram Serverless

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Clever idea! Although after reading it briefly I see a need for secrets storage.

I've made one Telegram bot hosted on VPS with Docker and cloud LLM. It also interacts with a few other outside services and all credentials are injected via env vars now.

Should I push them as `.env` file for Telegram serverless?

Re: Telegram Serverless

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Good lord. This reeks of LLM... why should I use your product when you can't be bothered to have a human write it? Why should I trust it to work correctly or have been decently tested, neither of which is a given when having an AI vibe-code it? And why is it one huge single page of word salad instead of self-contained units? Anyway, good to see someone post a fully self contained example demonstrating core concepts.…

Sounds like it's free, so, why the hate? May as well have zero docs. I don't think they're trying to convince you of anything.

> Sounds like it's free, so, why the hate?

I see undisclosed usage of AI as a theft of my time.

Re: Telegram Serverless

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity - how did you figure this out? I cannot find any hints about that. Was it the language used?

"it doesn't silently go unnoticed", "would be silently inert", "instead of silently overwriting", "you can never silently overwrite" The biggest tell for me is overuse of the term "silently". "quietly" is another one you often see from Claude in particular. Models love adverbs for whatever reason, whereas a human writer would use them in moderation for emphasis or prefer terms like "by accident".

Accidental things and silent things are very different. Accidental means you didn't mean to do it, silent means you don't know you've done it (or might not if you want to get picky, you could notice).

Re: Telegram Serverless

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This is cool. I wish Signal had a bot API like telegram's.

I wish WhatsApp did... hopefully it goes the way of BBM and a more developer friendly platform becomes the norm among normies.

WhatsApp does appear to have some "business" account/API type stuff which I assume is scriptable. But I don't believe it's got a free tier for personal use (although I haven't personally looked).

It is always preferable to use WhatsApp to contact a business than calling up.

Re: Telegram Serverless

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post #41
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity - how did you figure this out? I cannot find any hints about that. Was it the language used?

Have you ever “wired” anything to anything else when developing software? No, because software doesn’t involve wires, but LLMs are quite convinced that it does.

Sure, even @Autowired
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