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An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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whywhywhywhy wrote: post #21
harvie wrote: post #11

GIMP. How do you feel about it? i know people were sometimes quite critical, it has different workflow than PS, but it seems it gets the job done.

World would be in a better place if GIMP hadn't ever existed, the existence of GIMP is part of why we don't have an actual viable alternative. Constant claims of "good enough", 20+ years to implement adjustment layers after dismissing their value for many years a team that doesn't really care at all about it. If GIMP had never existed maybe the Blender team or someone else who actually has passion for the problem wou…

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Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by XCSme »

pauldoerwald wrote: post #17
JKCalhoun wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty clear marketing killed PS when they went to a subscription model.

A subscription model isn't needed to kill software. I think Adobe just stopped caring about product quality. They stopped asking "why do people love Photoshop" and instead just chased quarterly numbers.

With subscriptions, you want to have ways to increase the subscription amount and retain people, which usually leads to adding features no one asks for and bloating the product, trying to upsell users.

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by anonymars »

pauldoerwald wrote: post #17
JKCalhoun wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty clear marketing killed PS when they went to a subscription model.

A subscription model isn't needed to kill software. I think Adobe just stopped caring about product quality. They stopped asking "why do people love Photoshop" and instead just chased quarterly numbers.

Adobe and everyone else. Many of those complaints resonated with me outside of Photoshop

But as I've said in the past, I think there is a relationship between subscriptions and quality: with a subscription model, feedback signals become decoupled. In the past, if the new version isn't good enough, people won't buy it. Now the calculus is changed to whether the product has become bad enough to unsubscribe

Potentially related: trust thermocline (https://readwise.io/reader/shared/01ggz99w9kvpp6yq52abes00eq...)

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by mft_ »

A tangent, but for full clean removals of apps in MacOS (because I'm old-school and despite having plenty of GBs of storage, I hate the idea of dregs lying around) I've had success with AppCleaner[0] and Pearcleaner[1].

Pearcleaner is multi-functional; AppCleaner just sits in the background looking for app bundles to appear in the recycle bin.

[0] https://appcleaner.macupdate.com/ [1] https://github.com/alienator88/Pearcleaner

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by DonHopkins »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #21
harvie wrote: post #11

GIMP. How do you feel about it? i know people were sometimes quite critical, it has different workflow than PS, but it seems it gets the job done.

World would be in a better place if GIMP hadn't ever existed, the existence of GIMP is part of why we don't have an actual viable alternative. Constant claims of "good enough", 20+ years to implement adjustment layers after dismissing their value for many years a team that doesn't really care at all about it. If GIMP had never existed maybe the Blender team or someone else who actually has passion for the problem wou…

Here, here. I wish Blender would just grow an image editor, with pie menus and visual programming nodes. It already has a video editor!

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by yardie »

> One thing I loved as part of the Creative Cloud subscription was the Creative Cloud Synced Files service. Basically, it was Adobe’s version of DropBox. I used it all the time to share screenshots and samples of in-progress work. Then, in 2023, Adobe announced they’d be discontinuing the service. There was so much pushback that they delayed the service’s retirement for a year. It makes sense, it was a nice feature of the subscription plan and businesses had come to rely on it.

Okay so this pisses me off because our graphic design team was having constant problems with Photoshop being unable to open assets. They were stored on the corporate fileserver. I opened a ticket with Adobe support who informed that they didn't support opening assets directly from a NAS. They only supported local copy and Creative Cloud sync. That was the official line. Solution I came up with was to restart SMB daemon every morning. Which released the lock on the files.

So Adobe went from supporting SMB/AFS file sharing to pushing customers to use their dropbox like sync service. And then abandoning even that to be replaced with...?

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by donatj »

My biggest complaint about Photoshop is that every time CPUs have gotten faster, it's gotten slower. I've used it since the mid 1990s recreationally, early 2000s professionally. Every time I get a major CPU upgrade, it will be fast for a while, but with updates become slow again. This pattern has repeated over and over again.

Most recently when I moved to Apple Silicon from an Intel Mac, I was excited how quickly everything worked again. Now my M1 is showing its age, and I noted when I started Photoshop the other day it took close to 30 seconds.

The UI is a little snapper than it was on a 68k Mac back in the 90s, but nowhere near the order of magnitude one would expect.

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