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Autopsy Study Finds Replicating SARS-CoV-2 in the Hearts of Long Covid

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Re: Autopsy Study Finds Replicating SARS-CoV-2 in the Hearts of Long Covid

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Post by DANmode »

PaulKeeble wrote: post #13
mchusma wrote: post #9

After seeing studies like this, and how the shingles vaccine reduces dimensia, I have become increasingly convinced that it’s bad to get almost any disease, even transiently. I used to think that it was kind of good to train your immune system (kind of whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger). I no longer believe that. I believe that diseases often cause unknown effects and it’s better to avoid disease entirely,…

I am now pretty certain every virus we have ever caught is just smouldering in our body somewhere constantly held in check by the immune system. We seem to just accumulate ever increasing issues until our body can't cope anymore and become symptomatic with damage and then ultimately die. We have had a huge blindspot for the damage viruses are doing to people, I doubt any infection leaves us. The research from Covid i…

Makes eating your garlic, and other key foods, a bit more interesting.

Re: Autopsy Study Finds Replicating SARS-CoV-2 in the Hearts of Long Covid

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Post by tigerlily »

mchusma wrote: post #9

After seeing studies like this, and how the shingles vaccine reduces dimensia, I have become increasingly convinced that it’s bad to get almost any disease, even transiently. I used to think that it was kind of good to train your immune system (kind of whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger). I no longer believe that. I believe that diseases often cause unknown effects and it’s better to avoid disease entirely,…

I have come to the same conclusion, especially in regards to anything affecting digestion, from food poisoning, campylobacter, salmonella, giardia, to any gut parasites or just bad bacteria. It can change your gut physiology, mess with enzyme production long term, fucking up your diet by reducing the kinds of foods you can eat. There's also the possibility of bowel cancer pathways via such diseases, which I read is currently under investigation.

Re: Autopsy Study Finds Replicating SARS-CoV-2 in the Hearts of Long Covid

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Post by ZpJuUuNaQ5 »

grayhatter wrote: post #25
ZpJuUuNaQ5 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I used to think that it was kind of good to train your immune system (kind of whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger). I no longer believe that. Well, that's essentially what vaccines do, anyway, except that they train the immune system without requiring you to go through the full disease. As a side note, I developed myocarditis after a COVID vaccine which damaged heart tissue and caused an AV block.

I'm interested in your perspective, Do you think you're more mad you got the vaccine, or more greatful that you did because an organic infection would have done more damage?

>because an organic infection would have done more damage

That's not something I'll even know. Also, the question assumes that I have had an organic infection at some point, which, to the best of my knowledge, I did not. I am not grateful to have a pacemaker at 29.

Re: Autopsy Study Finds Replicating SARS-CoV-2 in the Hearts of Long Covid

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Post by ZpJuUuNaQ5 »

realo wrote: post #27
grayhatter wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm interested in your perspective, Do you think you're more mad you got the vaccine, or more greatful that you did because an organic infection would have done more damage?

The more interesting question is whether he would have got the myocarditis if he had not taken the vaccine. I think he would have. And might have died of COVID on top of it.

>might have died of

Good. I wish I did.

Re: Autopsy Study Finds Replicating SARS-CoV-2 in the Hearts of Long Covid

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Post by serf »

realo wrote: post #27
grayhatter wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm interested in your perspective, Do you think you're more mad you got the vaccine, or more greatful that you did because an organic infection would have done more damage?

The more interesting question is whether he would have got the myocarditis if he had not taken the vaccine. I think he would have. And might have died of COVID on top of it.

it's estimated around 5% of people remained covid-free & vaccine-free. I guess it's an easy guess that they would've caught it, but it's not certain.

Re: Autopsy Study Finds Replicating SARS-CoV-2 in the Hearts of Long Covid

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Post by nephihaha »

dualvariable wrote: post #36
M95D wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can and should train your immune system, but not by fighting the enemy. Train it with a sparring partner - a vaccine. Many people think that viruses are as benign as common flu (influenza), or common cold (rhinoviruses), because that what they experienced themselves and parents and schools don't do a good job of explaining just how bad some diseases are. (To "protect" the children, perhaps?) But most viruses are…

> Many people think that viruses are as benign as common flu (influenza) Had influenza in 2018, as a 46-year-old and it was not particularly benign. 3 days straight of 103 degree fever and think I had mild long-covid-ish symptoms for the next year or so.

I haven't had full blown flu in over ten years, despite being probably exposed to it numerous times. I must be doing something right.

Re: Autopsy Study Finds Replicating SARS-CoV-2 in the Hearts of Long Covid

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Post by Schmerika »

Krssst wrote: post #32
brewcejener wrote: post #22

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If people develop long COVID after catching COVID (even before the vaccine existed), but not after taking the vaccine, then the cause is the virus not the vaccine. Those weird comments coming back again and again is just insane. I wonder why does HN attract that kind of people.

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Re: Autopsy Study Finds Replicating SARS-CoV-2 in the Hearts of Long Covid

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Post by aand16 »

realo wrote: post #27
grayhatter wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm interested in your perspective, Do you think you're more mad you got the vaccine, or more greatful that you did because an organic infection would have done more damage?

The more interesting question is whether he would have got the myocarditis if he had not taken the vaccine. I think he would have. And might have died of COVID on top of it.

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Re: Autopsy Study Finds Replicating SARS-CoV-2 in the Hearts of Long Covid

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Post by rdmirza »

draebek wrote: post #33
rdmirza wrote: post #21

It's established that COVID can persist in tissue/blood - particularly in immunocompromised patients - and is associated with long COVID [1]. This abstract only reports a cut-off of >60 days from COVID infection, so it's hard to know how many of these deceased patients are truly outside the acute infection phase. Although this research area is the most promising avenue for long COVID -- wrt biologic rationale -- the…

> Viral disease is not being associated with more and more long term diseases. You meant to write " now being associated with more and more long term diseases", right?

Aye. Outside edit window unfortunately

Re: Autopsy Study Finds Replicating SARS-CoV-2 in the Hearts of Long Covid

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Post by happymellon »

apexalpha wrote: post #30
mchusma wrote: post #9

After seeing studies like this, and how the shingles vaccine reduces dimensia, I have become increasingly convinced that it’s bad to get almost any disease, even transiently. I used to think that it was kind of good to train your immune system (kind of whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger). I no longer believe that. I believe that diseases often cause unknown effects and it’s better to avoid disease entirely,…

I used to think that it was kind of good to train your immune system (kind of whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger). I no longer believe that. Vaccines are a method of training your immune system…

Based upon their comment talking about vaccines being good, I'm assuming they mean catching something intentionally to train your body at a convenient time.

I remember 30 years ago kids used to be put together if one had chicken pox so the others could catch it to get it out of the way. Covid parties, etc.

This is now considered a bad move.

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