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I Built a Telegram Client for Pi

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Re: I Built a Telegram Client for Pi

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Post by colinmarc »

p1necone wrote: post #20
tough wrote: post #7

To all the haters to not knowing what "pi" means in this context. Is mario zechner's ai agent / coding harness [1][2], similar in spirit albeit much less complex to claude code or openai's codex and others. I wouldn't call it third tier. If anything alongside opencode, and codex, its one of the "first tier" and the only non-VC-backed (at least before mario joined earendil (idk about earendil raising or not) anyways.…

Everything else feels bloated. The same model in pi will consume significantly less context for the same task as there's not piles of unchangeable system prompts being passed along (I assume), and at least compared to OpenCode the quality feels better too. I just wish Anthropic let me use my Claude subscription with pi, it's annoying having to switch between them. (Not to mention the unmatched level of customisabilit…

I use my Anthropic sub with Pi. They keep saying they're going to disallow that and then walking back the decision. Or at least I think that's what's happening.

Re: I Built a Telegram Client for Pi

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Post by DANmode »

croes wrote: post #34
DANmode wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would I have without your prompt?

Would I program without a customer‘s order. Imagine it works like this. The customer send me a mail, I program, I send the result back the next day, he sends changes he wants, I program again, send them back next day etc. until he is satisfied. Who is the programmer? Me or my customer. Now I hook up an AI to my email account without telling my customer. The AI reads the customer‘s mail, programs, sends the results th…

Your question makes more comparative sense with the word “developer”.

Re: I Built a Telegram Client for Pi

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Post by andai »

p1necone wrote: post #20
tough wrote: post #7

To all the haters to not knowing what "pi" means in this context. Is mario zechner's ai agent / coding harness [1][2], similar in spirit albeit much less complex to claude code or openai's codex and others. I wouldn't call it third tier. If anything alongside opencode, and codex, its one of the "first tier" and the only non-VC-backed (at least before mario joined earendil (idk about earendil raising or not) anyways.…

Everything else feels bloated. The same model in pi will consume significantly less context for the same task as there's not piles of unchangeable system prompts being passed along (I assume), and at least compared to OpenCode the quality feels better too. I just wish Anthropic let me use my Claude subscription with pi, it's annoying having to switch between them. (Not to mention the unmatched level of customisabilit…

You mean it's annoying being charged 20x more per token for the privilege of costing them less money? ;)

(In my tests, small tasks cost an order of magnitude less in a minimal harness than in Claude Code and Codex)

Re: I Built a Telegram Client for Pi

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Post by snthpy »

tough wrote: post #7

To all the haters to not knowing what "pi" means in this context. Is mario zechner's ai agent / coding harness [1][2], similar in spirit albeit much less complex to claude code or openai's codex and others. I wouldn't call it third tier. If anything alongside opencode, and codex, its one of the "first tier" and the only non-VC-backed (at least before mario joined earendil (idk about earendil raising or not) anyways.…

It really should have a better name. Not easy to search for.

Re: I Built a Telegram Client for Pi

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Post by snthpy »

deeplurker571 wrote: post #16
atharva-again wrote: post #2

I like the idea of being able to use agents from my phone. Termux is nice, but not very good on small screens. So I tried Hermes, it had first-class telegram support, but then I never use it for coding and was asking it to delegate to codex / pi. There wasn't much I was gaining from hermes, so I stopped using it. Then I started using Pi more and liked its extensability. Pi is the first software I have forked and deve…

I'm in a similar boat, I recently discovered Paseo ( https://paseo.sh/ ) which has mostly surpassed my expectations. It has changed my workflows, pi interaction is via a client rather than inside screen. But...I mostly have not missed that portion. I have zero affiliation other than being surprised by how well it works. There are minor UX improvements that could be made, but it's a solid...harness-harness ? Aside: Th…

Paseo looks like just what i was looking for. Thanks!

Re: I Built a Telegram Client for Pi

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Post by croes »

DANmode wrote: post #42
croes wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would I program without a customer‘s order. Imagine it works like this. The customer send me a mail, I program, I send the result back the next day, he sends changes he wants, I program again, send them back next day etc. until he is satisfied. Who is the programmer? Me or my customer. Now I hook up an AI to my email account without telling my customer. The AI reads the customer‘s mail, programs, sends the results th…

Your question makes more comparative sense with the word “developer”.

Then who is the developer?
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