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Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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Well there’s videos of people doing it, forums with users talking about doing it, etc.

Is that a credible bar for "actual fact" any more though?

I think it’s a fact that people do it and it’s a real phenomena. Whether it has any scientific basis or not is a different matter.

Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that a credible bar for "actual fact" any more though?

I think it’s a fact that people do it and it’s a real phenomena. Whether it has any scientific basis or not is a different matter.

Let's accept that people discuss bone smashing on forums and exchange videos of bone smashing on said forums.

Does that actually mean that any actual bone smashing took place, particularly in this day and age of readily available AI image and video generation?

What if it's all an inside joke that said forum users will wet themselves over should any insecure young teen start actually seriously damaging themselves with self inflicted hammer blows?

Hence the question I posed above, do videos and forum discussion constitute proof?

Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it’s a fact that people do it and it’s a real phenomena. Whether it has any scientific basis or not is a different matter.

Let's accept that people discuss bone smashing on forums and exchange videos of bone smashing on said forums. Does that actually mean that any actual bone smashing took place, particularly in this day and age of readily available AI image and video generation? What if it's all an inside joke that said forum users will wet themselves over should any insecure young teen start actually seriously damaging themselves with…

I would probably accept a report from a reputable news agency confirming that someone was admitted to hospital after having some accident that the subject themselves referred to as "bonesmashing"... even if others might try to no-true-scotsman it.

In Wikipedialand, this is the requirement for independent sources; it's not enough for X to say X did Y, even if X or X's friends film X doing Y and affirm they didn't doctor the footage. It needs an independent source (not X, X's friends and family, X's fellow forum posters, but instead a neutral third party) to confirm X did Y.

Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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After being very concerned that the Google agent seriously believes hitting one's jaw with a hammer was a real phenomenon, citing that the real cases must be private, a medical journal mentioned it and they would never pick up tiktok rumours (they essentially did) etc I thought it would have surely been fooled here. I suppose if not, important facts like this could be agent-checked and need a 2/2 consensus in that ca…

I notice Gemini is essentially a frontend to Reddit at this point. I'm guessing that was on TikTok and also Reddit, while the malicious Wikipedia edit doesn't make it through a subreddit.

Too much muscle memory to change yet but I continue to want to at least try changing my default search engine to Reddit Answers for a trial to see how it compares to Google, probably at least as good.

Re: The Reports of Jim Carrey's Death Are a Failure Mode

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe you are applying an unreasonably high burden of proof here

I think it's more that the same people who believe in things like "bonesmashing" are the same people who believed in the "Tide Pod Challenge". You know, morons.

> You know, morons.

Like the American Association of Poison Control Centers

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/0...

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