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Steam Controller Auto-Charge – pilot to magnetic charging puck using CV

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Re: Steam Controller Auto-Charge – pilot to magnetic charging puck using CV

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For those who can't decipher what this is, a video might be helpful. It literally crawls the controller along a tabletop using the haptic feedback motors: https://x.com/FossPrime/status/2070013003752251660

Barely helped me understand:

`yt-dlp https://x.com/FossPrime/status/2070013003752251660` did load the video. Xitter does not load.

Re: Steam Controller Auto-Charge – pilot to magnetic charging puck using CV

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the intro paragraph does explain the project. The person you responded to just points out how useful it is to see it in action.

No? It says “pilots the controller” which is fairly vague of the cause and effects going on. I think a real human would clarify the controller motors being used to physically move the controller.

What even is a "controller", it pilots the gamepad. Controller could mean the AR controllers, too.

Re: Steam Controller Auto-Charge – pilot to magnetic charging puck using CV

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s just a case of the rich getting richer. Use your money to buy out the entire stock and then resell it for double the price. What value was added? It’s just the scalper taking the savings the seller intended to pass on to the consumer for themselves. It adds nothing and makes the world worse for everyone else. It’s anti-social behavior.

You can't ignore the laws of economics and expect them to go away, any more than you can ignore the law of gravity and expect not to die when you make a high impact landing without equipment. Just because you don't want them to be true, does not make them true, and you can't just dismiss them. In any system with scarce resources, some rationing mechanism must be at play. If it isn't price paid, it is something else l…

These forces are reality, we all acknowledge this, but I think most of us object to their assertion it is good and drives towards FMV rather than distorts it.

Just because somebody disagrees with you doesn’t mean they don’t understand basic economics. You should be a little more charitable in your discussions.

Re: Steam Controller Auto-Charge – pilot to magnetic charging puck using CV

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Must be nice to be able to even buy a controller.

Yup! I 'reserved' a controller May.15th and my estimated order availability is '2027'.

I feel bad that I got mine just in time for my baby's birth so I'm several weeks into having it without playing any games! I need to see if I can use it for one handed gaming while cuddling.

Re: Steam Controller Auto-Charge – pilot to magnetic charging puck using CV

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They tried to limit scalping by randomizing the delivery order.

Very unpopular opinion: Scalping is the fair market price discovery - it is basically a requirement in free trade societies. Now, Valve has no interest in screwing up their users because of the AI hardware craze. But this is what happens if you reject free trading: You have to signup for a lottery to get something scarce/in high demand. No matter how hard you work in your daily life, the only way to get the scarce re…

One might imagine a world, which would have to be populated by non-humans, in which we do price discovery for every transaction. Scalpers wouldn't exist: each batch of goods would be sold via Dutch auction.

I do wonder whether such a scheme might work for console launches — you put in the price you'd be willing to pay a scalper, and the batch you're allocated to is the first batch where the auction price is lower than your bid. Then you pay the auction price for that batch.

Faithlife do something with a converse price discovery function for book digitisation: you enter the amount you're willing to pay for the result, and if N people are willing to pay at least $COST/N, they do the work. No point in scalping that: it's a digital product, the question is availability rather than quantity.

In a world populated by humans, and with a mass-market good with restricted availability, there's a societal pressure to avoid enabling scalpers. Whether you act by yourself running some kind of auction, or by attempting to limit the ability of scalpers to buy in bulk, or by ignoring the pressure (and possibly running your own scalping operation to front-run the third-party scalpers), is up to you.

Re: Steam Controller Auto-Charge – pilot to magnetic charging puck using CV

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very unpopular opinion: Scalping is the fair market price discovery - it is basically a requirement in free trade societies. Now, Valve has no interest in screwing up their users because of the AI hardware craze. But this is what happens if you reject free trading: You have to signup for a lottery to get something scarce/in high demand. No matter how hard you work in your daily life, the only way to get the scarce re…

Scalping still exists. They're readily available sealed in box for 2-2.5x retail. For someone who will purchase at a scalped price, this has no impact. For a scalper, it reduces the likelihood of a guaranteed return. For someone who will purchase at an RRP it gives them an actual timeframe for delivery and lets them make an educated decision on whether they want to purchase for £85 in 6 months, or pay £200 on ebay an…

That may well not be scalping per-se, if scalping is the bulk purchase and resale.

I find it a lot harder to criticise folk who might well have used the controller themselves, at retail price, but upon discovering they've effectively paid 2.5x decide to put their controller onto the resale market.

Re: Steam Controller Auto-Charge – pilot to magnetic charging puck using CV

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post #6
post #2

For those who can't decipher what this is, a video might be helpful. It literally crawls the controller along a tabletop using the haptic feedback motors: https://x.com/FossPrime/status/2070013003752251660

Yea, interesting how this outs the README as AI Generated. I don't think any human would ever write a sentence like this without first explaining THE FREAKING CONTROLLER IS MOVING BY VIBRATING Proximity Creep Mode: Automatically cuts haptic pulse frequency by 50% when the controller is within 150 pixels of the puck to ensure a gentle magnetic dock.

Wow, that was better than I expected. I expected some janky “technically it is moving in the right general direction” thing but it scurries right along.

Re: Steam Controller Auto-Charge – pilot to magnetic charging puck using CV

#48
post #37
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any human would have taglined this "vibrate to magnetic charging puck with computer vision". It just feels horribly low effort. Respect your fellow man.

These are the weirdest criticisms. It seems totally normal to me for engineers to be bad at explaining their project to a lay audience. Whereas that's the kind of thing that LLMs are great at.

Anyway, it’s a little free hobbyist project, right? Documentation is extra, not expected.

Re: Steam Controller Auto-Charge – pilot to magnetic charging puck using CV

#49
Alright, we're halfway through the Pantheon scene where David hacks the data center with the satellite phone.

Though, the phone moving with the vibration was always the more believable half. The ultrasonic pressing of the keyboard is mostly sound science but questionable from an engineering standpoint.

Re: Steam Controller Auto-Charge – pilot to magnetic charging puck using CV

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't ignore the laws of economics and expect them to go away, any more than you can ignore the law of gravity and expect not to die when you make a high impact landing without equipment. Just because you don't want them to be true, does not make them true, and you can't just dismiss them. In any system with scarce resources, some rationing mechanism must be at play. If it isn't price paid, it is something else l…

These forces are reality, we all acknowledge this, but I think most of us object to their assertion it is good and drives towards FMV rather than distorts it. Just because somebody disagrees with you doesn’t mean they don’t understand basic economics. You should be a little more charitable in your discussions.

You're right I probably should be more charitable, but I don't see any other way to read GP other than them denying basic economics. The comment that they were replying to did not say it was a good thing and they liked it. Sure it may have been implicit to some, but if GP was objecting to that, they should have used something other than the word no.

If they were responding to this part:

> why would you work hard to create value for others in a system like that?

Then their answer of no makes no sense, so I don't see a way to be much more charitable

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