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Camera with transparent display launches for the equivalent of $29

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Re: Camera with transparent display launches for the equivalent of $29

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Post by Groxx »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #13
neon_diogenes wrote: post #2

When I use a camera with an optical viewfinder, I feel more connected to my subject. Sure all the modern pro cameras are using EVFs now, and their performance is excellent, but I do think it’s a more disconnected shooting experience. Think about the optical chain. EVF: Subject —-> real time digital processor —-> screen —-> shooters eye OVF: subject —-> mirror/glass —-> shooters eye My hipster take is that makes shoot…

"shooters eye" is doing a lot of work there, since that's where the most pre-processing happens, by far

The largest source of delay too

Re: Camera with transparent display launches for the equivalent of $29

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Post by Groxx »

cge wrote: post #28
zerobees wrote: post #6

I don't understand how this works. If it's a transparent display that just passes through light and adds some overlay information (like a viewfinder on d/SLR cameras of the old), then doesn't the frame change completely depending on the distance you're holding the device at in relation to your face? It can't be meant to be used with your arm fully outstretched, because that would be an impractically narrow field of v…

A perhaps similar sort of finder existed on a number of older (eg, first half of the 20th century) cameras, usually as a secondary option or an accessory, for quick shots. They tend to be common additions built into waist level finders because WLFs are slow to use and adding them is cheap; there’s one on the 1939 Praktiflex, as a random example, an early 35mm SLR with a pretty tiny WLF as its primary viewfinder. Thos…

It's nowhere near thick enough to handle the huge variety of ranges shown in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duKNwA96J5Y (thickness clearly visible at ~10s)

Re: Camera with transparent display launches for the equivalent of $29

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Post by Groxx »

mikestew wrote: post #9
zerobees wrote: post #6

I don't understand how this works. If it's a transparent display that just passes through light and adds some overlay information (like a viewfinder on d/SLR cameras of the old), then doesn't the frame change completely depending on the distance you're holding the device at in relation to your face? It can't be meant to be used with your arm fully outstretched, because that would be an impractically narrow field of v…

I think the idea is that the display kinda represents the shot, but not well, but if you cared you wouldn’t be shooting with a $29 camera. I mean, it takes 1920x1080 pics, don’t get too picky there, Ansley Adams. :-) But I agree with you, I don’t see how the “viewfinder” is all that useful, other than “nifty!”.

tbh I would probably enjoy a dirt-cheap viewfinder-and-display-less camera, like an even-cheaper charmera. it'd also make a great party-favor thing: hand them out before an event, and optionally gather photos from people at the end.

Re: Camera with transparent display launches for the equivalent of $29

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Post by Groxx »

tencentshill wrote: post #5

This is probably an LCD panel with the polarizer removed, so the UI will require a bright/strong source of light behind it.

Without the polarizer, you wouldn't be able to see anything. Unless wearing polarizing sunglasses.

But yea, you'd need light on the subject you're looking at it through to take pictures too.

Re: Camera with transparent display launches for the equivalent of $29

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Post by jerlam »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #45

> Godox has apparently omitted Wi-Fi and Bluetooth for cost reasons. Seem like a questionable claim given that many microcontrollers support both of those.

It's not just the cost of the antennas. This device barely has a screen and has like four buttons total. How are you going to type in a wifi password?

Re: Camera with transparent display launches for the equivalent of $29

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Post by bestham »

henvic wrote: post #21
ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does that sentence strike you? This product seems to be a light meter with a camera attached.

Sure, but that is despite of / or not because it's very affordable. Not thanks to it. Or am I being too picky?

I believe that Notebookcheck is natively written in German and translated.

Re: Camera with transparent display launches for the equivalent of $29

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Post by dingaling »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #45

> Godox has apparently omitted Wi-Fi and Bluetooth for cost reasons. Seem like a questionable claim given that many microcontrollers support both of those.

More likely omitted for cost associated with regulatory reasons, so they don't have to submit it for emitter approval.

Re: Camera with transparent display launches for the equivalent of $29

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Post by dTal »

K0balt wrote: post #30
zerobees wrote: post #6

I don't understand how this works. If it's a transparent display that just passes through light and adds some overlay information (like a viewfinder on d/SLR cameras of the old), then doesn't the frame change completely depending on the distance you're holding the device at in relation to your face? It can't be meant to be used with your arm fully outstretched, because that would be an impractically narrow field of v…

I don’t know but it’s either completely vibes driven or, maybe, it uses a TOF sensor to know how far from your face it is . It has framing cues that seem to adjust, so it’s plausible that it gives you an approximate framing based on the distance from your face. Even multizone TOF sensors are less than $2 these days, so it’s at least plausible.

if you have a 2 dollar budget to make a viewfinder work, just throw in a ten cent plastic lens and be done with it.
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