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Gemini Code Assist will be shut down on July 17

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Re: Gemini Code Assist will be shut down on July 17

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What the doublespeak hell is this? > The enterprise version of Gemini Code Assist on GitHub is a separate and distinct product from Gemini Code Assist Enterprise.

A while back I evaluated using Google's AI products for my company and this is barely the tip of the iceberg when it comes to confusing naming. I left so confused after a few days that I decided there was no way I could inflict that on anyone else in the company. I think the were some good ideas in there but I couldn't tell you which of the ~40 (at least) similarly named products those were.

Price segmentation taken to absurd lengths.

Re: Gemini Code Assist will be shut down on July 17

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This is not a theory of market competition that I've heard before.

basic supply/demand demand moves to cheaper providers, they ran out of capacity and increase price literally why "commodities" are "commodities" - the more interchangeable a product is the more exposed it is to supply/demand mechanics

Agree. The less "stuck" a customer is to a given provider, the more that prices should equalize between providers.

Re: Gemini Code Assist will be shut down on July 17

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Most of these free AI coding tool/agents won't exist anymore by 2028. This LLM thing is so expensive to run, it's understandable that these corporations are moving to the monetization phase. What solopreneurs also need to worry about is that the cost for these tools is likely to increase... exponentially, because even paid, the plans are still heavily subsidized... when the profit seeking phase kicks in, some people…

anthropic has 80% margin on API tokens

Let's wait for the S1 before making any assumptions.

Re: Gemini Code Assist will be shut down on July 17

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I think the title is wrong, it's "Gemini Code Assist on GitHub" for non-enterprise users that is being shut down. Not "Gemini Code Assist". Yes their naming scheme is absurd

What the doublespeak hell is this? > The enterprise version of Gemini Code Assist on GitHub is a separate and distinct product from Gemini Code Assist Enterprise.

It looks like products being developed by two teams, separate but not independent what can be chosen as the name of service.

Re: Gemini Code Assist will be shut down on July 17

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I did wind up choosing GCP to be our primary enterprise AI provider and it has definitely been a challenge to try and explain the difference between Vertex AI Studio, Gemini Enterprise, and Gemini Enterprise Code Assist, to say nothing of trying to explain that these three products are not the same thing as the consumer version of Gemini that they can find when they google “Gemini AI”. The branding is godawful.

This appears to be a commonality across software companies as Microsoft appear to do the same thing. Is it that the marketing is bad or is there some weird reason that this all makes sense?

If I had to guess, it’s an ownership issue. There’s an enterprise team, a consumer team, a cloud team, etc. so there’s no single vision and plan. Which could be okay, but then each of those teams likely has not been given the authority to develop their own branding or naming and just defaults to using whatever is available, pre-canned.

Re: Gemini Code Assist will be shut down on July 17

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Googles AI stuff and tiers are probably the most confusing ever because it feels like they rename it all the time. If you subscribe by the time you pay, it has a different name again and the documentation and blogs are all over the place they basically now call everything Google One. It's like all the appliance manufacturers where every store has a different id for the same machine.

The other problem is the pricing includes a bunch of other Google crap I have zero interest in. They're doing the same mistake Microsoft is doing. People like me want only the coding subscription, not everything else that's shoved into it. When I buy into Claude, I am into it for Claude Code, if I cared to give Scam Altman any money it would be for Codex.

That's by design. It's like asking cable companies to only have this or that channel, or netflix to let you pay just for standup comedy specials. The bundle is the bundle, the hits subsidize the misses.

Re: Gemini Code Assist will be shut down on July 17

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The other problem is the pricing includes a bunch of other Google crap I have zero interest in. They're doing the same mistake Microsoft is doing. People like me want only the coding subscription, not everything else that's shoved into it. When I buy into Claude, I am into it for Claude Code, if I cared to give Scam Altman any money it would be for Codex.

That's by design. It's like asking cable companies to only have this or that channel, or netflix to let you pay just for standup comedy specials. The bundle is the bundle, the hits subsidize the misses.

Oof, why would you sign up for only the standup comedy specials? 90% of them are garbage. These people are not funny.

Re: Gemini Code Assist will be shut down on July 17

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That's by design. It's like asking cable companies to only have this or that channel, or netflix to let you pay just for standup comedy specials. The bundle is the bundle, the hits subsidize the misses.

Oof, why would you sign up for only the standup comedy specials? 90% of them are garbage. These people are not funny.

That 10% might be worth $1 or $2 per month.

Re: Gemini Code Assist will be shut down on July 17

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post #46

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That's by design. It's like asking cable companies to only have this or that channel, or netflix to let you pay just for standup comedy specials. The bundle is the bundle, the hits subsidize the misses.

Oof, why would you sign up for only the standup comedy specials? 90% of them are garbage. These people are not funny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law

Did you expect comedy specials to be an exception to this?

Re: Gemini Code Assist will be shut down on July 17

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I think the title is wrong, it's "Gemini Code Assist on GitHub" for non-enterprise users that is being shut down. Not "Gemini Code Assist". Yes their naming scheme is absurd

Hah, is Google now just as bad at naming things as Microsoft?

I wonder if I can ask a Google sales rep for quote me a price for Gemini One 365 Enterprise Pro.

But I guess they'd just put my query into their Gemini Sales Pro Assist chatbot..

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