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> My point was that google generates hundreds of billions of dollars from the same water that $34 million in alfalfa Food is more important than whatever google does. :/

Radical Luddite posting on the internet is … something.

What's your argument here?

I would love to hear why you think food is not actually more important than data centers.

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Missing the point. There's absolute bare minimum food that you need to eat regardless of everything else.

Alfalfa isn’t food.

It most certainly is. It may not be the food that you like to eat personally.

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Missing the point. There's absolute bare minimum food that you need to eat regardless of everything else.

You are the one who is missing the point.

Am I? What point? In my comment I stated the missed point, yours is entirely devoid of real meaning.

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How much water AI data centers use feels like the least interesting reason to dislike them. If I wanted to dislike them for environmental reasons, then I’d focus entirely on the energy consumption and CO2 emission from the generators directly hooked up to the data centers since the grid can’t provide them with enough juice. If I wanted to dislike them for economic reasons, I’d focus entirely on the weird circular dea…

> It’s by far not the biggest problem! Yeah, you're right. Some parts of the world is running out of fresh/clean water. We can drink coke instead.

The water isn’t destroyed, though, is it? It evaporates, right? So it isn’t lost?

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> It’s by far not the biggest problem! Yeah, you're right. Some parts of the world is running out of fresh/clean water. We can drink coke instead.

The water isn’t destroyed, though, is it? It evaporates, right? So it isn’t lost?

It’s infused with biocide and other chemicals which can’t be separated by processing plants. It’s not evaporated, but dumped if the system is open loop.

It becomes unusable for consumption and farming. It becomes waste.

Closed loop systems and ordinary humidifying doesn’t and can’t “use” that amount of water.

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How is everything else a distraction? We are overusing our water budget so every little piece on top is extra impactful.

I don’t really know how to rephrase it. It’s a distraction. This article could have been about shipping alfalfa to the Middle East and Asia, but instead it was about this.

That’s not a distraction. It’s one of the many ways in which data centers are problematic. Why shouldn’t it be talked about as such?

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How is everything else a distraction? We are overusing our water budget so every little piece on top is extra impactful.

Agriculture uses orders of magnitudes more water than data centers. A 50% cut in water use by data centers will have nowhere near the impact of a 5% cut in water use by agriculture. But data centers can generate orders of magnitude more revenue. Say rain water is leaking into your house from two holes in the roof: one is 1 meter in diameter, the other is 1cm. Any effort you spend plugging the 1cm hole is a distractio…

That 1cm leak is going to lead to mold in my house so both need to be addressed.

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Agriculture uses orders of magnitudes more water than data centers. A 50% cut in water use by data centers will have nowhere near the impact of a 5% cut in water use by agriculture. But data centers can generate orders of magnitude more revenue. Say rain water is leaking into your house from two holes in the roof: one is 1 meter in diameter, the other is 1cm. Any effort you spend plugging the 1cm hole is a distractio…

That 1cm leak is going to lead to mold in my house so both need to be addressed.

Maybe imagine your in a canoe with a hole the size of your fist and another hole the size of a pin. Where do you spend your time to keep from sinking?
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