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Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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The classic chaotic governance model and creation of an uncertain business environment by the Trump admin in the most important industry for the US economy.

If this is the most important industry for the US economy, the US is screwed. and .... Hopefully you're correct.

In past Empires kings bet their entire nations future on the words of soothsayers , people who said they could predict the future. It seems like Machine Learning engineers are the magicians of Empire of the modern age.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Chinese models brought the building down.

are export controls the right thing ? Probably not.

but the american economy is over-exposed on "A.I" - the capital expenditure, while the Chinese are proving you don't need to spend tons of capital to get close to the frontier.

the Chinese have better building capacity & cheaper energy. that means the market has to correct at some point.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dario Amodei (Anthropic's CEO) had previously been directly liaising with the government and apparently it wasn't going well.

Any news why?

They don't speak the same [proverbial] language essentially. Dario and the WH talk about this stuff completely differently.

https://archive.is/9k7qt#selection-2001.41-2001.49 https://archive.is/dybOE

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…

I'm a small software business owner in Europe. I have to assume my competition is willing to pay for any business advantage they can get. And so I also have to pay for the SOTA model, whatever it is.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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This is great news, I'm sure many teams couldn't do their best work because Claude Fable 5 was unavailable. I wonder what their hiring pages look like now, are they starting to remove job postings?

there is no way Fable and Mythos had such an impact in such a short amount of time that people were hiring based on it.

They certainly are now that the export ban is lifted.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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post #43

Chinese models brought the building down. are export controls the right thing ? Probably not. but the american economy is over-exposed on "A.I" - the capital expenditure, while the Chinese are proving you don't need to spend tons of capital to get close to the frontier. the Chinese have better building capacity & cheaper energy. that means the market has to correct at some point.

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Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…

Nobody cares about this temporary "ban" by the US government. If anything it only increased the mystique of the two models. I think Europe and Canada are just happy not to be frozen out of AI access completely at this point.

All the discussion this week have been about GLM, Qwen, etc. Both over 1000 comments in the last couple days.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48709670

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48721903

Of course Anthropic is still relevant, but people have realized they’re not special, and between this and the ID verification thing, they’ve given up a ton of their relevance vs a month ago.

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The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…

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