great news!, I would like to conversate with my dog...i'm sure he has more important thing than lots of people
From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery
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Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery
#42great news!, I would like to conversate with my dog...i'm sure he has more important thing than lots of people
If one were to go about translating brain waves from dogs to meaning, we'd run into a big problem immediately: vocabulary resolution.
What I mean by that is we'll have a very limited number of words to which a dog's brainwaves can be translated to since we aren't able to understand them beyond their basic instincts of food, survival, fear, affection towards their owner etc.
There is just no way to go past what we have already observed by their behavior since dogs can't talk or write.
I do wonder how animals think. Perhaps this resolution would also be the theoretical maximum?
Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery
#43Someone should try it while sleeping and see if anything is related to a dream.
This wouldn’t work. Apart from it being very difficult to get people to sleep deeply enough for them to dream in machines like this, the brain state is very different whilst asleep compared with awake. Also the data generated from typing would be very different than thought since it’s likely picking up on broad electrical activity in the primary motor cortex. Source: spouse works in a sleep lab studying dreams with M…
what sleep lab does your spouse work at? i'm curious about studying dreams
Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery
#44[stub for offtopicness] p.s. come on you guys - this is not what HN is for. You may not owe $megacorp better but you owe this community better if you're participating here.
@dang How is this offtopic?
Meta has shown remarkable disregard to users' and employees' privacy.
Why should that not come up when discussing an entirely new dystopian technology that allows them to invade privacy at scale?
Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery
#45great news!, I would like to conversate with my dog...i'm sure he has more important thing than lots of people
If one were to go about translating brain waves from dogs to meaning, we'd run into a big problem immediately: vocabulary resolution. What I mean by that is we'll have a very limited number of words to which a dog's brainwaves can be translated to since we aren't able to understand them beyond their basic instincts of food, survival, fear, affection towards their owner etc. There is just no way to go past what we hav…
>There is just no way to go past what we have already observed by their behavior since dogs can't talk or write.
There are many dogs that have been trained to press buttons corresponding to words, in the extreme case tens/hundreds of buttons/words, and they can even construct rudimentary sentences. It doesn't seem insane to me that we could perhaps do a very rudimentary version of this for dogs, given a large enough training set.
Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery
#46great news!, I would like to conversate with my dog...i'm sure he has more important thing than lots of people
Now, your dogs may very well be smarter than mine. But here's how I imagine a convo with my dogs would go.
- Let's go see what's on the other side of this door, friend, maybe there's food !!
Ok, friend, here you go. - opens door.
- Wow super cool, now let's go see what's on the other side of this door, friend, maybe there's food !!
Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
If one were to go about translating brain waves from dogs to meaning, we'd run into a big problem immediately: vocabulary resolution. What I mean by that is we'll have a very limited number of words to which a dog's brainwaves can be translated to since we aren't able to understand them beyond their basic instincts of food, survival, fear, affection towards their owner etc. There is just no way to go past what we hav…
>There is just no way to go past what we have already observed by their behavior since dogs can't talk or write. There are many dogs that have been trained to press buttons corresponding to words, in the extreme case tens/hundreds of buttons/words, and they can even construct rudimentary sentences. It doesn't seem insane to me that we could perhaps do a very rudimentary version of this for dogs, given a large enough…
Some important ones like, "earthquake", "Seizure", etc...
Might be of use.
Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery
#48[stub for offtopicness] p.s. come on you guys - this is not what HN is for. You may not owe $megacorp better but you owe this community better if you're participating here.
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Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery
#49Reminds me of the scene in series Incorporated where a megacorp uses this sort of tech to interrogate an employee from a competitor mega-corp to get at a trade secret.
It's a little spooky how real that could now be. Oh and that series was a dystopian series because ofc it was
Re: From brain waves to words: a new path to communication without surgery
#50[stub for offtopicness] p.s. come on you guys - this is not what HN is for. You may not owe $megacorp better but you owe this community better if you're participating here.
It'll be a cold day in hell before Meta gets access to my brainwaves. Good heavens, can you imagine?
2034: brainwave readers are now production-ready
2035: every phone comes with one so you can can do things without clicking any yucky buttons
2036: China mandates phone manufacturers to capture and submit brain data to the state to protect the children and promote social harmony. EU and US condemn. the media condemns.
2037: the EU mandates phone manufacturers to capture and submit brain data to the state to protect the children and fight malinformation. the media applauds.
2038: the US, ruled by the blue party, mandates phone manufacturers to capture and submit brain data to the state to protect the children and combat white nationalism. the red party condemns.
2039: the US, now ruled by the red party, abolishes the previous law and introduces a new one, mandating phone manufacturers to capture and submit brain data to the state to protect the children and combat illegal immigration. the blue party condemns.