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Sony erases digital content from libraries

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Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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Post by gosub100 »

TFNA wrote: post #10
WillAdams wrote: post #4

That they don't value knowledge as a good in and of itself is exemplified by the fact that the first (and only) e-book which I "purchased" using a $10 store credit offered for browsing on a certain day (it got me a check from the ebook pricing settlement) for my Sony PRS-505 from the Sony store was so riddled with typos I had to check out a copy from the library so as to determine what some text was so as to submit a…

It is publishers who generate ebooks – often with poor quality control as has been well known for two decades now – and provide them to distributors. Sony is just one distributor for such publisher-generated ebooks. Sony was probably unaware of the errors in that one of its myriad inventory until a customer alerted them, and the most it could offer would be a refund. Obviously Sony has neither the right nor the compe…

A grocery store is just a distributor. Yet they are responsible for selling something that makes me sick.

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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Post by antx »

hinata08 wrote: post #20
antx wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Son your defrgument is... what? It's okay for them to rugpull as long as they are removing movies from a company which you don't support for... political reasons? Whew!

this company is also a king when it comes to pulling rugs On their TV offering, in 2018 and 2022, they did pull the rug themselves by stopping to broadcast the free to air outlet which has #1 audience on the market, TF1, and this commercial dispute went to courts Long story short, it's big business (not just inde studio does politics) and they're notoriously anything but victims at it

Two wrongs don't make a right. Whatever StudioCanal is doing, does not ethically or logically absolve Sony of doing the same to its own customers.

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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Post by gverrilla »

hinata08 wrote: post #28
markus_zhang wrote: post #6

I never subscribe to any music/movie services. If I can find them I buy DVDs and if I can’t I download them.

these services are still ok for both suggestions and hard to find media I let the Deezer bot surprise me OPM and I absolutely loved it I also use it to listen to the Chinese rap, which would be a pain to get otherwise Otherwise their human curated playlists are real good But I agree with you, it's not how you "own" media. You only get the service to access media

I never heard Chinese rap - what would you recommend?

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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Post by gosub100 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #32

The core problem is licensing deals. And it's not just limited to movies, but games. Even the biggest juggernauts can't get out of this, with patches removing soundtracks [1]. A CD or DVD? That will hold the soundtrack for all of eternity (or at least as long as the physical medium survives), but for digitally bought games, it's ridiculous that content I paid for can just get silently patched away. [1] https://gamefa…

A simple solution would be to make licensing deals only apply to new purchases.

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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Post by ksec »

We have so many of these discussions on HN already. Buy vs Rent. Digital vs Physical Ownership, Privacy etc. Yes we all have an opinion on that.

I am more interested in a physical media that can keep its data for 80+ years, 500GB+, half the size of credit card and cheap to manufacture.

At the moment, and looking at the pipeline of tech. There are none.

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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Post by another-dave »

My_Name wrote: post #31

Many people are using the words 'buy' and 'bought' here. That in itself shows people regard the interaction they had with the company as a purchase, not just temporary access that can be removed unilaterally on a whim. IMO If you bought something and someone takes that away, THAT is the actual theft, and you have limited options to alleviate your loss. Yo ho me hearties...

"That in itself shows people regard the interaction they had with the company as a purchase, not just temporary access that can be removed unilaterally on a whim."

and of course an end user believes it's a purchase when the companies explicitly say things like "Rent for £2.99 or Buy for £9.99".

If Sony want to market this as buying rather than renting a film, then I think that they need to either -

- negotiate a contract that "grandfathers in" availability for as long as the platform exists, even if they lose rights to sell to new customers - refund what it'd now cost to buy outright elsewhere if they're pulling the title (if they want, maybe pro rate that. e.g. count a purchase as 100 years of access to it. If I lose rights after 10 years, I get a 90% refund)

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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Post by geerlingguy »

cryo32 wrote: post #15
markus_zhang wrote: post #6

I never subscribe to any music/movie services. If I can find them I buy DVDs and if I can’t I download them.

I find DVDs mostly pointless now. I've started seeing some from around 2000 which are now unplayable.

I buy physical media, and immediately rip it to my Jellyfin library.

The disc goes into a big case logic cd case, and the digital file gets backed up to two other places so there's almost an infinitesimally small chance I lose access to the content.

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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Post by okokwhatever »

hinata08 wrote: post #9

To the defence of Sony : I was getting concerned, but if only StudioCanal movies are getting pulled as Sony doesn't need to pay for that, *it's but a loss* The company was bought by the same tycoon who bought mainstream media to get frequencies, then replaced journalists with conservative anchors who ditch the news and rant about feminists and Muslims all day. They were recently known for Bac Nord. It is honestly a v…

wtf dude?

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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Post by geerlingguy »

dom96 wrote: post #22
nickpeterson wrote: post #16

I’ve bought a bunch of movies on appletv, and I think about how angry this would make me, but I’ve never looked into a decent backup solution. I’m not sure if the drm has ever been broken really, but I’d imagine some device could pretend to be an hdmi tv. Anyone ever backup their atv stuff?

This already happened in the iTunes era, didn’t it? My partner bought South Park episodes and songs and lost them all.

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