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Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane
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Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane
#42> sunlight causes most of the heat issues; cloudy days are unlikely to be extremely hot > solar panels convert sunlight to electricity > AC converts electricity to cooler air indoors Ah, if only there was a way to solve those three problems at once. Alas... As to the "resistance" to AC: is this an actual thing or just something the media made up? It seems that for the most part anyone who wants AC can just buy it, ba…
It's just a meme but too-online professional opinion-havers memed themselves into taking it seriously. Many such cases unfortunately
Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane
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"disgusted at European outlook on growth"?
Well, cancer is growth, nature and vitality, but not quite positive, is it?
Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Americans aren't cooling their homes to 64F in the summer, I have no idea where you get that idea. Generally people will cool their homes to somewhere around 72-78F, which is 22.22-25.56C.
In my experience very few Americans set their A/C to anything above 75F.
In my experience they absolutely do. The houses by and large aren't very well designed or insulated, and electricity isn't that cheap. In the southeast I rarely see home thermostats set to the 60s or low 70s. Office settings are a different question, though.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Americans aren't cooling their homes to 64F in the summer, I have no idea where you get that idea. Generally people will cool their homes to somewhere around 72-78F, which is 22.22-25.56C.
In my experience very few Americans set their A/C to anything above 75F.
It's hard to accurately generalize an entire country, of course. But in my experience people generally are in the range I stated. I'm sure that there exist people who turn their AC down below 70F, but I've never personally encountered one. And even the low end of my range, 72F, is uncommon in my experience.
Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane
#47I can’t hear this degrowth strawman anymore. There are probably 20 people complaining about people wanting degrowth for everyone who actually advocates for that. It’s not like every politician in Europe is advocating for that.
Degrowth is absolutely not niche in Western Europe. In Germany and NL, it is the new religion along with free Palestine movement. Take any moderately educated Zillenial and ask them what they feel passionately about. People are feeling more and more alienated from large scale projects of humanity. They have also given up on religion itself. What remains is a facade of religion where degrowth and Palestine take act as…
As a Dutchman, I was so surprised by the contents of this comment that I finally decided to make an account.
Bringing up Palestine in this discussion is definitely a choice. Relating them as you have is special.
The amount of public figures advocating degrowth is low and declining. And I follow a lot of climate voices.
Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane
#48I can’t hear this degrowth strawman anymore. There are probably 20 people complaining about people wanting degrowth for everyone who actually advocates for that. It’s not like every politician in Europe is advocating for that.
Degrowth is absolutely not niche in Western Europe. In Germany and NL, it is the new religion along with free Palestine movement. Take any moderately educated Zillenial and ask them what they feel passionately about. People are feeling more and more alienated from large scale projects of humanity. They have also given up on religion itself. What remains is a facade of religion where degrowth and Palestine take act as…
I'm old enough to remember the 1980's when people largely adopted a strikingly similar "new religion" that advocated for a free South Africa.
The Free Tibet "religion" was also a huge thing for a while in the 90's.
There are countless other examples. All with varying degrees of success.
The point is, there's nothing new about people being passionate about human rights. It has absolutely nothing to do with... well... whatever "degrowth" is.
Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane
#49I am curious about the power grid situation in Europe. Assume the rate of AC usage was as high as the US (or god forbid Japan), how far behind is the grid infrastructure from where it needs to be? ERCOT (Texas) has daily swings of up to 50 gigawatts of power in the summer. I am pretty sure it is the most volatile US grid in terms of the demand side. A lot of the transmission infrastructure is purpose built for this e…
There are massive distributed solar deployments (eg. people putting cheap solar panels on their roofs, often backed by batteries) happening right now, those should help offset AC demands quite nicely.
The problem with solar (at least in Texas) is that the buildings store heat long enough that the peak of the HVAC demand curve coincides with when solar begins to taper off really hard. 5-6pm is when maximum HVAC demand occurs around here.
Re: Europe's resistance to AC is driving it insane
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Degrowth is absolutely not niche in Western Europe. In Germany and NL, it is the new religion along with free Palestine movement. Take any moderately educated Zillenial and ask them what they feel passionately about. People are feeling more and more alienated from large scale projects of humanity. They have also given up on religion itself. What remains is a facade of religion where degrowth and Palestine take act as…
As a Dutchman, I was so surprised by the contents of this comment that I finally decided to make an account. Bringing up Palestine in this discussion is definitely a choice. Relating them as you have is special. The amount of public figures advocating degrowth is low and declining. And I follow a lot of climate voices.
170k people protested against Israel. Not once. Not twice. Multiple times. For an issue that’s not even in the same continent as them.
Everywhere you go you see people’s homes hoisting Palestine flags. You see it in restaurants. Cafes. You see graffiti and flyers.
It is definitely not normal levels of interest. It is religious levels of interest. I’m not saying it’s wrong however.
The only other event that brings this much passion is maybe Kings Day or Pride Parade. Neither come close
Here in Germany, not a single person I know is excited about the idea of growth. And a lot of people, even in tech are disgusted by generative AI.
As a Dutchman, what do you think is the sentiment?
Here’s a pic a mate from uni sent me (probably from Den Haag) https://imgur.com/a/HlTdw4P
> The duck says: QUACK ChatGPT into the trash bin.
This would be considered ridiculous to even protest about in third world countries like Syria/Iraq.