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'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence

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Re: 'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence

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Post by mschuster91 »

randycupertino wrote: post #13
d-cc wrote: post #3

>Sarah Wynn-Williams served as director of global public policy at Facebook, now operating under parent company Meta Platforms Inc., from 2011 until her firing in 2017. “Careless People” alleges cruel and otherwise disturbing behavior by CEO Mark Zuckerberg and other executives. I would have liked to learn about specific allegations of "cruel and otherwise disturbing" from the article, instead of leaving this complet…

He throws huge temper tantrums and pouts so much when he loses at board games while traveling on the facebook private jet so all his staff conspires to let him win. I read the book. Also Sheryl Sandberg comes off pretty badly, buying $13,000 worth of lingerie for her "cutie" personal assistants and asking them to wear skimpy pajamas and snuggle with her in the bed on the corporate jet. There is a lot of corporate pri…

> Also Sheryl Sandberg comes off pretty badly, buying $13,000 worth of lingerie for her "cutie" personal assistants and asking them to wear skimpy pajamas and snuggle with her in the bed on the corporate jet.

Good lord the Wikipedia article about her has more absolutely dogshit behavor [1]:

> According to an April 21, 2022, report by The Wall Street Journal, Sandberg was part of a coordinated campaign to prevent the Daily Mail from publishing a story about a temporary restraining order towards Kotick by a former girlfriend in 2014.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheryl_Sandberg#Personal_life

Re: 'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence

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Post by tlogan »

So she is trying to make money by selling a book about how Facebook is bad, meaning how the company only cares about profit and nothing else.

I can already tell it has to be one of the most boring books ever written, because there is nothing new there.

It is basically like writing a book that says: the sky is blue and water is wet.

Re: 'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence

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Post by FireBeyond »

senordevnyc wrote: post #20
randycupertino wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He throws huge temper tantrums and pouts so much when he loses at board games while traveling on the facebook private jet so all his staff conspires to let him win. I read the book. Also Sheryl Sandberg comes off pretty badly, buying $13,000 worth of lingerie for her "cutie" personal assistants and asking them to wear skimpy pajamas and snuggle with her in the bed on the corporate jet. There is a lot of corporate pri…

It's hilarious that anyone would give a shit about Zuck having a bad attitude about losing board games. Hopefully the book has something more damning than that.

The Myanmar struggles where Zuck explicitly valued a feature and the approval of the administration over open threats to harm dissidents.

Or the times when he proposed using lower level FB staff as canaries in the coal mine over governments who threatened to arrest FB employees because the company was breaking their laws... and in one case, an employee was. And Zuck wanted to sit on getting him legal help and out of jail because he felt it would get FB positive PR. And when he was gotten out of jail and brought to a company event where he would meet company execs, Zuck was introduced to him, didn't look up from his phone, and in fact asked, while led away, "who was that, again?"

Re: 'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence

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Post by derwiki »

tlogan wrote: post #42

So she is trying to make money by selling a book about how Facebook is bad, meaning how the company only cares about profit and nothing else. I can already tell it has to be one of the most boring books ever written, because there is nothing new there. It is basically like writing a book that says: the sky is blue and water is wet.

It was very well written and I plowed through it in just a few days. It’s probably more than you think, like the part about Sheryl making her reports cuddle in bed with her.

Re: 'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence

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Post by _russross »

stogot wrote: post #34
rpdillon wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just finished it! Been camping since Thursday, so had time to read. I expected it to sort of decline in intensity as I got closer to the end, but it's pretty darn fascinating the whole way. Highly recommended. I'd support the Careless People effect.

Curious what other books you’d recommend?

I read Careless People and then Character Limit: How Elon Musk Destroyed Twitter and they felt like a good pairing. "Character Limit" is also one of the best book titles ever. I highly recommend both.

Re: 'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence

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Post by LorenPechtel »

ipython wrote: post #9

I wish sites would link to the docket to provide a primary source. Here’s the complaint: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.47...

I wondered what she was calling "duress".

Meta made executing this Severance Agreement a condition to Ms. Wynn-Williams’s ability to submit for reimbursement over $300,000 in pre-approved business expenses she had paid using her personal funds, including luxury hotel rooms and other travel expenses for Mr. Zuckerberg and fellow Meta executives.

Yeah, that's duress in my book.

Re: 'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence

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Post by ben_w »

senordevnyc wrote: post #20
randycupertino wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He throws huge temper tantrums and pouts so much when he loses at board games while traveling on the facebook private jet so all his staff conspires to let him win. I read the book. Also Sheryl Sandberg comes off pretty badly, buying $13,000 worth of lingerie for her "cutie" personal assistants and asking them to wear skimpy pajamas and snuggle with her in the bed on the corporate jet. There is a lot of corporate pri…

It's hilarious that anyone would give a shit about Zuck having a bad attitude about losing board games. Hopefully the book has something more damning than that.

It's an indicator of being a fragile personality.

Everyone makes mistakes sometimes; and if you cannot be told you have made a mistake even in a low-stakes situation like a board game, it seems unlikely you will behave appropriately when it is something more expensive and/or damaging.

Re: 'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence

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Post by d-cc »

ipython wrote: post #30
d-cc wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ms. Wynn-Williams’s colleagues were frustrated that they could hear her baby in the background on late night work calls. As a proposed “solution,” Ms. Sandberg told Ms. Wynn-Williams that she should “[b]e smart and hire a Filipina nanny” because they are “English speaking, [have a] sunny disposition, and [are] service oriented.” This is a strange thing to emphasize, but I guess expected for law-trash. What do you t…

Yikes. If it's normal for a superior in any company you work for to tell you how to run your personal life, to include the race of the "service people" you need to hire on your own dime, you have some seriously toxic workplaces. I suppose it's okay for Sandberg to also ask you to "come to bed" in the Meta private jet as well? (to be further met with a lack of surprise when you report it, because "half the department"…

>to include the race of the "service people"

If you've ever needed to buy drugs in the bay area, I'd recommend paying somebody to find you the nearest hondo for the best product at the lowest prices.

>I suppose it's okay for Sandberg to also ask you to "come to bed" in the Meta private jet as well?

I think everybody involved should be fucking adults.

>I guess the sexual harassment is, as you say, "what the pay is for"?

Depends on the job.

Re: 'Careless People' author claims Meta surveilled her for 12mos to enforce silence

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Post by d-cc »

ipaddr wrote: post #40
ipython wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yikes. If it's normal for a superior in any company you work for to tell you how to run your personal life, to include the race of the "service people" you need to hire on your own dime, you have some seriously toxic workplaces. I suppose it's okay for Sandberg to also ask you to "come to bed" in the Meta private jet as well? (to be further met with a lack of surprise when you report it, because "half the department"…

Filipino isn't a race. It's the name for people who come from a specific country. We use to rave about Japanese cars or German's work ethic. Same thing here. And service people is an okay term to discribe people who work in the service industry.

I was going to reply with

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_Philippin...

but it came off to me as more snarky than productive, so I did not.

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