It turns out eventually you have to deal with reality.
"It is a well-known fact that reality has liberal bias." - Stephen Colbert
Military branches restore flu shot requirement after virus swept through base
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Re: Military branches restore flu shot requirement after virus swept through base
#42This administration might be the exception, but it is actually normal for the US military to be getting more vaccines than average, even when their effectiveness is suspect (some past flu vaccines) or side effects are moderate to severe (e.g. anthrax vaccines). Readiness - a matter of national security - tends to trump most concerns that, in civilian populations, might warrant greater choice and debate.
You'd think other aspects of health, like general fitness and mental well-being would be factored in too, but strangely, the only requirement they seemed to take a hard stance on previously was over-vaccination.
Almost like it was politically-motivated and it's not truthfully a "matter of national security"
Re: Military branches restore flu shot requirement after virus swept through base
#43Absolutely none of this should have happened. None. The 1918 "Spanish flu" was cultivated in the trenches and spread through military camps and demobilization. Hesgeth should be removed from his position ASAP. Edit: >Around 60% of previously unvaccinated trainees at Lackland initially declined the flu shot during the vaccine requirement’s lapse, according to the defense official. https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/24/po…
Origins of the 1918 flu are unclear, but there is evidence that it started in Haskell County, Kansas, and spread to Camp Funston, Kansas. As a consequence, many of the trainees became non-functional.
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#44It turns out eventually you have to deal with reality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community
> The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' [...] 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'.
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#45Re: Military branches restore flu shot requirement after virus swept through base
#46I have a close friend who is an officer nearing twenty years. He has not had a tendency to criticize his job. However, he has been adamant that vaccines are incredibly important for the military and the policy changes have really angered him, specifically because of the damage it does to readiness.
> However, he has been adamant that vaccines are incredibly important for the military ...
https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/smallpox-inoculation-revolu...
> During the 1700s, smallpox raged through the American colonies and the Continental Army. Smallpox impacted the Continental Army severely during the Revolutionary War, so much so that George Washington mandated inoculation for all Continental soldiers in 1777. Just fifty-six years earlier, in 1721, Bostonian doctors and clergy introduced the procedure to the American colonies. Without the vision and determination of these early Bostonians in normalizing inoculation, Washington may not have made the decision to mandate inoculation for the Continental Army. Though it was a controversial action, many historians credit the medical mandate with the colonists’ victory in the Revolutionary War and the creation of the United States of America.
https://www.mountvernon.org/education/primary-source-collect...
> HEAD QUARTERS MORRIS TOWN 12TH MARCH 1777
> Sir
> You are hereby required immediately to send me an exact return of your regiment, and to send all your recruits, who have had the small pox to join the Army. Those, who have not, are to be sent to Philadelphia, and put under the direction of the commanding officer there, who will have them inoculated.
Re: Military branches restore flu shot requirement after virus swept through base
#47It turns out eventually you have to deal with reality.
Hot take but we should let reality deal the blow. There's so many things that people think is redundant and unnecessary but actually have an army of people and machination that are working tirelessly to curb it. Only to called bloat and the deep state.
Vaccines should not be given automatically, because that causes people to not think about why they need it. They think that it is something is imposed on them. But if they always have to request it (and the request is quick and always given, or super cheap at the shop) then people would have to know to get vaccinated. Parents will talk to each other about which vaccine is necessary (and its going to be all of them because they will know someone that died from it)
This is true for any crisis really. For example, lets say that you are managing someone's finances or health, you found out that they are in a horrible situation. But then, you discovered a solution that does not require their attention. So you work tirelessly behind the scene to fix their finances or develop new cure. Voila! Problem solved. Or is it? You have not fixed the fundamental problem that they are an obese with obese lifestyle.
Re: Military branches restore flu shot requirement after virus swept through base
#48It turns out eventually you have to deal with reality.
Maybe. But long before that, many other people have to deal with the consequences of a few others' disbelief in reality.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly, all the time spent deferring reality ends up hurting a lot of bystanders. The debt they've run up is going to be painful, maybe moreso than the damages incurred from the anti-science and anti-transparency policies.
The debt would be less painful if the pricks that were responsible for this mess would be billed for the consequences of their poor king-making. We can start with whomever showed up to that inauguration, and expand from there. If they could afford that bribe, they can certainly afford to pay for repairing the damage their golden boy has caused.
And/or if the debt was for something useful. There’s nothing wrong with running up massive low-interest debt if it’s invested in high-return projects. I’ll borrow every cent anyone will lend me at 2% if there’s a 4% savings account handy, and that’s the leverage the US used to enjoy.
But just cutting taxes for the rich is not that model.
Hopefully sanity prevails and we retroactively declare those tax cuts as loans, now due with interest. Yeah, not how contracts are supposed to work. So what.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community
> The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' [...] 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, c…
The actors of the empire are dismantling said empire. It will be studied, not least by its adversaries.