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Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Re: Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Post by axus »

mattnewton wrote: post #22
conartist6 wrote: post #3

The content of the post deemed by ICE to warrant ~~federal prosecution~~ crime-boss-style intimidation: > BREAKING: The ICE agent who shot and killed Renee Good in broad daylight has been identified as Jonathan Ross by the Minnesota Star Tribune. I think today is a great day for Johnathan to be indicted! If anyone is wondering, it would still be a good day : )

_in a polling place_ no less

I see they were invited in by the person they wanted to intimidate, so that she wouldn't be alone, and there were no voters present. "Better judgement" would have been to not invite them and to not accept the invitation, but after the fact I could say it's preferable to the alternative. The person who decided to take action against this lady should be fired though.

Re: Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Post by hightrix »

LightHugger wrote: post #30
conartist6 wrote: post #3

The content of the post deemed by ICE to warrant ~~federal prosecution~~ crime-boss-style intimidation: > BREAKING: The ICE agent who shot and killed Renee Good in broad daylight has been identified as Jonathan Ross by the Minnesota Star Tribune. I think today is a great day for Johnathan to be indicted! If anyone is wondering, it would still be a good day : )

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> Renee Good tried to run over a cop

First, your disrespectful lower casing of her name shows exactly who you are and what you are trying to do.

Second, no, she did not. We all have seen the videos from every angle. Jonathan Ross, the murderer, was not in danger.

I agree, the lack of accountability of ICE agents abusing their power and murdering US citizens is ridiculous.

Re: Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Post by bryceacc »

Steve16384 wrote: post #27
delichon wrote: post #21

This kind of intimidation sucks and I'd like to see individual officers who indulge in it lose their qualified immunity and be prosecuted for it. But I'm at least grateful to live under a regime that needs to break its own laws to do this, and so such charges can be dismissed by courts that follow the law, even if they don't apply consequences to the offending officials. Compare that to the UK where more than 12k peo…

Which of the 12K arrests do you not agree with? Or are you saying people should be free to write whatever they want on social media with no repercussions?

>Or are you saying people should be free to write whatever they want on social media with no repercussions?

no repercussions from the government, yes, people should be free to write whatever they want

Re: Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Post by hightrix »

LightHugger wrote: post #34
conartist6 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do realize that's a politically motivated account of actions that has never been subjected to any kind of cross-examination. I want a trial to know if this was a murder or a law enforcement action or self-defense. I should not be expected to decide PERSONALLY, I'm supposed to have a justice system that does that.

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> violently attacking someone

Jonathan Ross is the only person in that interaction that violently attacked someone resulting in death.

Re: Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Post by inglor_cz »

Steve16384 wrote: post #27
delichon wrote: post #21

This kind of intimidation sucks and I'd like to see individual officers who indulge in it lose their qualified immunity and be prosecuted for it. But I'm at least grateful to live under a regime that needs to break its own laws to do this, and so such charges can be dismissed by courts that follow the law, even if they don't apply consequences to the offending officials. Compare that to the UK where more than 12k peo…

Which of the 12K arrests do you not agree with? Or are you saying people should be free to write whatever they want on social media with no repercussions?

Most countries in the West have higher threshold to arrest someone over social media posts. Some actually much, much higher.

12K is just a ridiculous number and indicates that the UK indeed has a free speech problem. I don't think that in my country there were more like ~ 20 actual arrests over the same problem during the same period.

Even if you agree with prosecuting people for speech, why exactly would you arrest them and drag them to prison/jail? Even here in Europe, this is a sort of offense that usually results in a suspended sentence or a fine, and a physical arrest is absolutely unnecessary, unless there is a good suspicion that that person is going to harm some concrete people at a concrete time.

In a more liberal country, even if prosecution over an utterance takes place, it usually happens without arrests, simply by asking the culprit to come to a police station and explain themselves, later the same in front of a court. There just isn't any need for physical restraining of that person, it is just intimidation.

Re: Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Post by noboostforyou »

LightHugger wrote: post #43
noboostforyou wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Rene good deserved her concequences 100% though what a piece of shit person. Serious question - wtf is wrong with you?

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"assaulting a cop with your car" as if she wasn't trying to simply leave the area and had her tires turned completely away from the cop who proceeds to shoot her in the head.

> innocent people

I must have missed the trial where she was found guilty, when did that happen? Oh wait...

Either way, you're celebrating the extra-judicial execution of a citizen and think that's normal behavior. You sound like the violent person here.

Re: Federal agents track down woman, demand she remove Instagram post about ICE

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Post by conartist6 »

LightHugger wrote: post #37
thecrash wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's scary that you bring up the question of whether Rene Good was under arrest or not at the time she was killed. As if it were legal or justified to execute people for failing to cooperate with their own arrest. It's scary because you're not the only person who believes this - many in ICE and other police agencies hold this belief, and by repeating it you encourage them to kill again.

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Yeah I get that. I understand that a car is really a deadly weapon, and the officer in a split second could not know for sure if the intent was to attack.

But the question of whether Renee decided to do manslaughter in her last seconds is still critically important to Renee

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