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Quebec town recognizes trees as living beings with rights

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Re: Quebec town recognizes trees as living beings with rights

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Post by fl4regun »

tsimionescu wrote: post #29
nemomarx wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We kinda draw arbitrary lines? I mean we do animal rights and animal welfare, so what really is the difference between a mouse and a tarantula in those terms

Well, I don't think we recognize a general right to life for animals, even for those protected under the law. Euthanizing a cat or a dog is allowed virtually everywhere, unlike a human, for example. We certainly don't recognize any right to bodily integrity for animals, as even cats and dogs are routinely sterilized. Generally, we instead have animal welfare laws that protect various animals to various extents for va…

In Ontario we have MAID (Medical Assistance in Dying), not sure if Quebec also has something like this, but it's not unprecedented in Canada.

Re: Quebec town recognizes trees as living beings with rights

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Post by kgwxd »

enraged_camel wrote: post #13
kgwxd wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The goal is definitely not to protect trees.

Oh yeah? What is it then? Please enlighten us.

Same nefarious reasons corporations were given "personhood". Is it illegal to "assult" trees now? If someone pisses on a tree, are they going to call in the SVU? The legal system isn't a toy. Trees, in the general sense, don't need extra laws, the ones that need protecting are already covered by property law.

Re: Quebec town recognizes trees as living beings with rights

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Post by [deleted] »

jimbokun wrote: post #28
I-M-S wrote: post #14

This will be weaponized by NIMBYs to further limit construction of housing and infrastructure, leading to a situation in which trees have more human rights than people.

It already says in the article they won’t be building anymore housing because they are forbidding cutting down trees to clear land to build, and they’re already out of open lots to build on. This is 100% NIMBYs finding new ways to protect their property values.

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Re: Quebec town recognizes trees as living beings with rights

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Post by cwillu »

derwiki wrote: post #39
I-M-S wrote: post #14

This will be weaponized by NIMBYs to further limit construction of housing and infrastructure, leading to a situation in which trees have more human rights than people.

.. coming soon to San Francisco I bet

Quebec law is not based on common-law, so I'm not sure how that would be managed…

Re: Quebec town recognizes trees as living beings with rights

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Post by DonsDiscountGas »

I-M-S wrote: post #14

This will be weaponized by NIMBYs to further limit construction of housing and infrastructure, leading to a situation in which trees have more human rights than people.

This is like saying guns will be weaponized. The entire point of this is to be a NIMBY weapon.

Re: Quebec town recognizes trees as living beings with rights

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Post by Larrikin »

baal80spam wrote: post #15
tsimionescu wrote: post #9

Such a weird idea. Do they recognize the right of cockroaches to life as well - as they are much more clearly living beings with some realistic chance of being sentient and feeling pain? What about tomatoes or roses or other plants? Note that I'm all for the protection of trees - for pretty obvious environmental, esthetic, and human usage reasons. I just don't think recognizing trees as having their own rights as liv…

> Note that I'm all for the protection of trees - for pretty obvious environmental, esthetic, and human usage reasons. I just don't think recognizing trees as having their own rights as living beings makes any sense whatsoever. Sadly, I don't think making sense matters for this kind of people.

What kind of people?
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