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Re: United Wizards of the Coast recognized by NLRB

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Hopefully they can push back against some of these collabs. I have yet to meet someone who is thrilled with playing a deck with Post Malone, TMNT, or The Walking Dead in it. The best you get is indifference.

Final Fantasy, LOTR, Avatar, are some of the best selling sets in the history of Magic. As much as I don't like some of the spiderslop, there is no real argument against printing more of it. The Hobbit set is going to be a complete blowout success.

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I’m familiar with sectoral bargaining in the abstract but wasn’t aware European workers had the ability to choose which union represented them in negotiations. How does that work in practice?

It depends heavily on the country but a worker at a company can pick a union to represent them. You might see a billboards saying join Union a or Union B. If you Union a is corrupt or screwing over one group of workers in favor of another group of worker, the laborers will just leave it and go to a different one. This solves a lot of problems with us unions, where they have a state sanctioned Monopoly on the workers.…

> The classic example is unions are going for terms that screw over junior members but there are other perverse examples.'

The story I always think of is the Port of Portland shutting down was because the ILWU organized a $20 million dollar slowdown to punish the operator. The operator ended up pulling out of the city never to return, costing all the ILWU workers their jobs, as well as the city of Portland a few million a year in taxes.

The reason for the $20 million dollar slow down? The ILWU wanted to take two jobs away on the site from the IBEW!

Re: United Wizards of the Coast recognized by NLRB

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Not only in Europe, but in Canada too. Think of the union as a corpo offering bargaining and administrative services. Unions compete with each other for workforces. The typical case would be for a newly unionizing workforce needing to choose which union to join. It is rare, but a workforce can even choose to move to a different union.

But without a monopsony how do these choose your own adventure unions have any real bargaining power?

It sounds like they'd at least have more power than a single-employer union, by virtue of being larger and having more resources.

Re: United Wizards of the Coast recognized by NLRB

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Hopefully they can push back against some of these collabs. I have yet to meet someone who is thrilled with playing a deck with Post Malone, TMNT, or The Walking Dead in it. The best you get is indifference.

Final Fantasy, LOTR, Avatar, are some of the best selling sets in the history of Magic. As much as I don't like some of the spiderslop, there is no real argument against printing more of it. The Hobbit set is going to be a complete blowout success.

The argument is that cashing out now destroys the long-term viability of the game ... but WotC will learn that lesson in a few years when the Magic gravy train crashes.

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Depends on the country. In a lot of countries, it's not much different than choosing a pension fund option. You join a job, you choose which union best represents you based on your industry/title/etc (if you are not already a member). If you are not happy with your current agreement, you choose a different union that promises better outcomes. It's so much less extreme than US unionization. There's not much reason for…

US unionization tbh sounds a bit like works council election in Germany, as that happens per business / vendor etc and fe in case of delivery apps or Tesla, Amazon etc is met with hostility

Maybe if you squint a little.

Once a workplace is unionized in the US, members have no real say or transparency to the union negotiation process. The union reps do not even have to work at the facility (in many larger unions, they are professionals paid for by the union).

Elections are only union wide, not specific to the company. And there is not really any day-to-day advisory capacity. Unions reps only exist to enforce the contract as signed.

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Same here: I own (literally) 50 Commander decks ... and I stopped playing 100% as soon as Transformers and My Little Ponies became cards. Magic will either become "generic TCG that's unrecognizable to the original" or it's going to pay a very painful long-term cost for their short-term gains.

I’m “uhm acshually”-ing a bit. The MLP cards aren’t legal in any format and Transformers, legal in commander yes, was a very small set. You can’t deny the popularity of the Final fantasy set. Selling that well indicates a desire. I don’t think the small secret lair releases deserve the hate. Wizards is still committed to making in-universe sets. The first novel in years was just published with the release of strixhav…

I think it's legit to criticize a game that was fantasy only (about MAGIC) for decades ... when it stopped being that.

Re: United Wizards of the Coast recognized by NLRB

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Hopefully they can push back against some of these collabs. I have yet to meet someone who is thrilled with playing a deck with Post Malone, TMNT, or The Walking Dead in it. The best you get is indifference.

Like secret lairs, they are trying to make products that some people will adore more than products everyone will like.

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But without a monopsony how do these choose your own adventure unions have any real bargaining power?

It sounds like they'd at least have more power than a single-employer union, by virtue of being larger and having more resources.

I'd much rather run a factory where only 10% of my workers may strike than one where 90% may strike.

Re: United Wizards of the Coast recognized by NLRB

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Anytime this comes up, it's worth pointing out how deeply weird US unionization is compared to the broader world. There is now a union ... just for Wizards of the Coast employees. UWOTC-CWA now has a monopoly on negotiating for WotC employees. Dues flow up to the CWA, but members don't necessarily get the benefit of bargaining industry-wide. There is also no choice within WotC for what union represents you. It's stil…

It’s not “deeply weird” but was intentionally legislated to prevent labor from obtaining similar sectorial bargaining power and political influence as they had in Europe. Some entertainment industry unions had already achieved similar stature pre-WWII and were grandfathered in, but the US learned their lesson here and explicitly sought to atomize at the workplace level.

Re: United Wizards of the Coast recognized by NLRB

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Final Fantasy, LOTR, Avatar, are some of the best selling sets in the history of Magic. As much as I don't like some of the spiderslop, there is no real argument against printing more of it. The Hobbit set is going to be a complete blowout success.

The argument is that cashing out now destroys the long-term viability of the game ... but WotC will learn that lesson in a few years when the Magic gravy train crashes.

How many more years do you want to wait? I own a store and we have not really seen any dip in attendance. There are definitely lots of older players churning, but lots of new ones being brought in as well. It's clear the game is being Commander-ified and lots of folks who were more interested in constructed / competitive Magic aren't happy, but it doesn't mean the game will die or anything like that.
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