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Trains halted across Germany because of communication system problem

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Re: Trains halted across Germany because of communication system problem

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Happened before at a smaller scale, crazy high redundancies in GSM-R mean this is likely sabotage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2022_German_railway_at... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM-R

If you know anything at all about the Deutsche Bahn, you'll know that it's most likely self-sabotage, in other words, incompetence.

Re: Trains halted across Germany because of communication system problem

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post #20

There was also a very peculiar train crash in the UK just a few days ago. A train hit a stationary train. That shouldn't really happen in this day and age. Sabotage was the first thing that came to my mind. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gy60gg6k5o

Maybe. OP isn't saying it's necessarily malicious interference though.

Not a stretch to imagine that it is though. Germany has some very effective radical vandals who make statements by interrupting infrastructure.

Re: Trains halted across Germany because of communication system problem

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Any HNer blocked in a DB train who can share with us the experience?

I’m sitting in an ICE in Munich that was supposed to leave a few minutes before I saw this story on HN. First the conductor announced a 30 minute delay because the radio wasn’t working, and then they bumped it to 2 hours. They didn’t say it was a systemwide problem.

Re: Trains halted across Germany because of communication system problem

#45

There was also a very peculiar train crash in the UK just a few days ago. A train hit a stationary train. That shouldn't really happen in this day and age. Sabotage was the first thing that came to my mind. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gy60gg6k5o

Yes, and just yesterday a passenger train was routed into the path of a freight train due to some points failure. It does make you wonder. https://www.railmagazine.com/news/points-failure-results-in-...

Re: Trains halted across Germany because of communication system problem

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If this weren’t Deutsche Bahn, I’d say it’s a cyber attack. Given that this is Deutsche Bahn, though, it may just as well be a maintenance issue.

These are effective targets for hybrid warfare for that very reason, plausible deniability
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