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Iran says it's closing Strait of Hormuz, accusing Israel, US of violating truce

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Re: Iran says it's closing Strait of Hormuz, accusing Israel, US of violating truce

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Iran has figured out it can make the US president look like an idiot over and over at relatively low cost to themselves, since they're already so thoroughly excluded from the rest of the world.

I think it is about making US pressure Israel and eventually rupturing that relationship. Meanwhile, Israel is trying to sabotage the peace process and dont care about that relationship.

Of course it is. It's literally the first provision in the MoU.

Re: Iran says it's closing Strait of Hormuz, accusing Israel, US of violating truce

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Approval still rides at 37%, which is pretty decent given the amount of turmoil that has been unleashed

He's not really up for re-election, so I'm not sure what approval numbers have to do with it

> He's not really up for re-election, so I'm not sure what approval numbers have to do with it

As an outsider, it seems the US midterm elections are a couple of months from now. If republicans lose, Donald Trump will most likely be impeached for all the mind numbingly high-level corruption and involvement in a pedophile ring.

Re: Iran says it's closing Strait of Hormuz, accusing Israel, US of violating truce

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It was astonishing to see the praise heaped on Trump by Israeli citizens and leaders, who believed he was their savior. I wonder if it's going to change now, not because he's giving up on them (which he seems to), but because they have nobody else left to rely on. Constant incoming ass kissing is effective when it comes to him, so their best strategy might be to keep going until he changes his mind again.

Israeli trust in Trump has already plummeted[1].

[1]: https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-71-of-israelis-dont-trust...

Re: Iran says it's closing Strait of Hormuz, accusing Israel, US of violating truce

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In this case Israel agreed to a ceasefire with Hezbollah, then had IDF soldiers inside Lebanon try to capture a base that Hezbollah holds. I think it’s reasonable to expect that if you sign a ceasefire and subsequently try to capture a base held by the other party of the ceasefire, they will shoot at you.

Re: Iran says it's closing Strait of Hormuz, accusing Israel, US of violating truce

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Iran’s perspective seems to be that their sovereignty will continue to be threatened by Israel if the US doesn’t start using its considerable amount of leverage over Israel to force them to stand down. I’m not sure how likely this would be, but Trump said that the US would start facing drastic fuel shortages and enter a recession in the next few weeks if he didn’t sign off on the MOU (which seems like a dumb thing to…

The question ultimately becomes "How much pain is Trump willing to let the US bear on the behalf of Israel?"

But in general, the answer(and not just for reasons of Israel, but his own fragile ego) is "quite a lot".

Re: Iran says it's closing Strait of Hormuz, accusing Israel, US of violating truce

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Trump agreed to the MoU saying it's allies would stop attacks, including in Lebanon. Israel continues to bomb it. It's up to Trump to put pressure on Israel to stop in order to make good on his deal. It's no surprise this is instantly falling apart - Trump promised something he couldn't deliver. We can only hope that he does eventually put enough pressure on Israel to stop.

If anything, Israel is increasing its attacks on Lebanon. Ben-Gvir is making on the record comments like "For every tear of an Israeli mother, a thousand Lebanese mothers must weep. All of Lebanon must burn."

Israel absolutely seems to be taking full advantage of Trump to play utter brinkmanship.

Source: https://thecongressionalinsider.com/how-one-statement-escala...

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