They made a movie about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Breath_(2019_film)
Ice water drowning survival of young patient (2025)
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Re: Ice water drowning survival of young patient (2025)
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exacerbated by astonishing overuse for anything from a 2-minute endoscopy to a 15-minute hand surgery. The pursuit of “comfort” at the cost of fractional lobotomy.
You're suggesting people undergo endoscopy without anesthesia? You go first, bud.
My only experience with global anesthesia was as a child waking up with a massive asthma attack unable to breathe so I try to avoid it.
Re: Ice water drowning survival of young patient (2025)
#43I'd be curious to read about 1, 2, 5, 10, 20 year follow-up. Party pooper warning. I'm afraid I don't have rose tinted glasses, due to personal experience with a family member with TBI (accident at age 16, 3 weeks in a coma). The aftereffects are profoundly destabilizing to his environment. I sometimes have quite a dark view of people's need to be a rescuer and celebrate the "alive!", when they don't have to deal wit…
I have a similar view on general anesthesia now, everyone i know(including myself) that has had operations have been permanently affected by anesthesia. Turning yourself off breaks far more than doctors realize i fear.
Re: Ice water drowning survival of young patient (2025)
#44I'd be curious to read about 1, 2, 5, 10, 20 year follow-up. Party pooper warning. I'm afraid I don't have rose tinted glasses, due to personal experience with a family member with TBI (accident at age 16, 3 weeks in a coma). The aftereffects are profoundly destabilizing to his environment. I sometimes have quite a dark view of people's need to be a rescuer and celebrate the "alive!", when they don't have to deal wit…
Your comment and the thread it started helps me a little with dealing with a close person's father's dementia.
Re: Ice water drowning survival of young patient (2025)
#45Dunno about you, but this does things to me.
Re: Ice water drowning survival of young patient (2025)
#46I remember that cryogenesis was deemed viable in the 80ies but essentially surface area is your enemy. Anything larger than a cat can’t be resurrected. It’s pretty bizarre really, they froze mice and microwaved them back to life.
Weird! I wonder if there is some exponential complexity going on. More neural pathways leaving more stuff that can potentially break from an uneven freeze/thaw? Or is it literally that the freezing and thawing can't happen evenly when you're too big? A brief transistional period with unfrozen outsides and frozen solid insides is probably not great for you.
This. You literally can’t evaporate all the thawing agent out of the blood of the organism without substantial burns by sheer volume
Re: Ice water drowning survival of young patient (2025)
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a similar view on general anesthesia now, everyone i know(including myself) that has had operations have been permanently affected by anesthesia. Turning yourself off breaks far more than doctors realize i fear.
Evidence?
Re: Ice water drowning survival of young patient (2025)
#48I'd be curious to read about 1, 2, 5, 10, 20 year follow-up. Party pooper warning. I'm afraid I don't have rose tinted glasses, due to personal experience with a family member with TBI (accident at age 16, 3 weeks in a coma). The aftereffects are profoundly destabilizing to his environment. I sometimes have quite a dark view of people's need to be a rescuer and celebrate the "alive!", when they don't have to deal wit…
The paper has the warning phrased differently. "He can at least be an organ donor", basically, in the summary. Your comment and the thread it started helps me a little with dealing with a close person's father's dementia.
Re: Ice water drowning survival of young patient (2025)
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exacerbated by astonishing overuse for anything from a 2-minute endoscopy to a 15-minute hand surgery. The pursuit of “comfort” at the cost of fractional lobotomy.
You're suggesting people undergo endoscopy without anesthesia? You go first, bud.
Re: Ice water drowning survival of young patient (2025)
#50I'd be curious to read about 1, 2, 5, 10, 20 year follow-up. Party pooper warning. I'm afraid I don't have rose tinted glasses, due to personal experience with a family member with TBI (accident at age 16, 3 weeks in a coma). The aftereffects are profoundly destabilizing to his environment. I sometimes have quite a dark view of people's need to be a rescuer and celebrate the "alive!", when they don't have to deal wit…
I have a similar view on general anesthesia now, everyone i know(including myself) that has had operations have been permanently affected by anesthesia. Turning yourself off breaks far more than doctors realize i fear.
Any phenomenon more widespread than the above is simply not supported by scientific studies to date.
I’m honestly a bit disappointed to find this comment on hacker news, as I feel the level of discourse here is usually higher. I wish you all the best and hope you recover from whatever you’re experiencing, but this is frankly fearmongering.