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Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by Multiplayer »

needz wrote: post #27
Multiplayer wrote: post #20

My simple take: Hermes is for the less technical and is more polished. OpenClaw is deeper with more capabilities. OpenClaw has come so far since its' original launch/craze. I recommend taking a second look if you haven't touched it in a while. If for no other reason than it's just a really fun playground with a LOT of areas to experiment in. Setup a myriad of agents with various models, skills, cron jobs, etc. The co…

Everything you mentioned OpenClaw does is also something that Hermes supports. Hermes also supports project-scoped kanban boards and can orchestrate across multiple specialized Hermes profiles.

I wasn't trying to go point to point - my point was that its enjoyable to play with. As is Hermes!

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by rvz »

Other than the hosting providers, who is making money directly from OpenClaw or Hermes Agent?

It only appears that the hosting providers are and not the user spending thousands of dollars on these agents.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by urbandw311er »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #40
cassianoleal wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry but if this is not a debacle, then we're operating under very different premises: - teknium1 retitled the original issue to "." and edited the issue text to "." - Nous Research deleted comments from 4 users, including the issue submitter, and blocked all of them. - No formal response has been given by teknium or the Nous Research project. It appears they are trying their darndest to brush it under the rug.…

I have no idea what these three things mean without more context.

Looks like the complainant blogged about it here:

https://evomap.ai/blog/hermes-agent-evolver-similarity-analy...

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by fnordpiglet »

Zababa wrote: post #22

I still don't really get the case for OpenClaw/NanoClaw/Hermes Agent/etc. I guess it's a mix of huge stacks of notes/second brain stuff but with a way to query it, and a place where all personal "AI apps" can live ; instead of making AI apps "individually" and deploying them somewhere? I do have a website on which I've been adding more and more stuff for personal use and for sharing with people, but when I want to de…

My struggle is despite giving it a good honest go I couldn’t find the use case for OpenClaw. Maybe I and my life is just too simple, and I’ve admittedly not invested a huge effort into spending countless hours watching breathless YouTubers vying for my attention to figure it out. I have built a few bits and bobs, I feel like I’m ideal in that I’m pretty deep into agentic workflows for work, my house is totally home assistant, I’ve got current tool following models pinned to local 4090’s, I’ve been fine tuning my smaller models, i even have a custom chatterbox based tts/sst pipeline with voice nodes everywhere.

I’d love some OpenClaw master to opine on meaningful use cases beyond clawbook, checking the weather, and telling you about crypto news, as it genuinely feels like something I should find utility for but am just too old or something.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by simonw »

rvz wrote: post #42

Other than the hosting providers, who is making money directly from OpenClaw or Hermes Agent? It only appears that the hosting providers are and not the user spending thousands of dollars on these agents.

You could ask the same question about any tool ever created. Users who figure out ways to use their agents that are profitable to them make money. Everyone else spends money.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by revnode »

isoprophlex wrote: post #34

I don't get it, why not put codex/claude code/opencode in a docker container and be done with it?

openclaw = claude code + memory + cron job

persistent memory plus cron job lets you do stuff that you can't do with just codex/claude code/opencode

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by nlitened »

Multiplayer wrote: post #20

My simple take: Hermes is for the less technical and is more polished. OpenClaw is deeper with more capabilities. OpenClaw has come so far since its' original launch/craze. I recommend taking a second look if you haven't touched it in a while. If for no other reason than it's just a really fun playground with a LOT of areas to experiment in. Setup a myriad of agents with various models, skills, cron jobs, etc. The co…

About three weeks ago I was seduced by people singing praise to OpenClaw, and also by the fact that OpenClaw team burns millions of dollars of tokens per month on developing it — surely it must be good.

It turned out to be probably the crappiest, glitchiest piece of software I’ve used in the past few years. Its basic onboarding workflow was completely broken, GUI was a hallucinated mess.

Also it turned out that not a single person I know who dedicated time to configuring it, ever achieved anything remotely interesting as a result.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by Barbing »

theshrike79 wrote: post #38
kordlessagain wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As Musk and Dorsey have said, IP law is highly incompatible with AI. Wasn't there some news a while ago that Anthropic and other frontier model companies used a bunch of pirated books to train their models? Are we not all benefiting from the fact that they also crawled a bunch of open code repos? If something is open source, it's pretty easy to tell if code is pulled directly from another repo and included in a proje…

> Wasn't there some news a while ago that Anthropic and other frontier model companies used a bunch of pirated books to train their models? Are we not all benefiting from the fact that they also crawled a bunch of open code repos? It was Meta. With Zuck's explicit permission.

& Anthropic owes $1.5b

https://apnews.com/article/anthropic-authors-copyright-judge...

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by hasteg »

Multiplayer wrote: post #20

My simple take: Hermes is for the less technical and is more polished. OpenClaw is deeper with more capabilities. OpenClaw has come so far since its' original launch/craze. I recommend taking a second look if you haven't touched it in a while. If for no other reason than it's just a really fun playground with a LOT of areas to experiment in. Setup a myriad of agents with various models, skills, cron jobs, etc. The co…

What are some examples of features that they have added since December that you use? I originally had setup openclaw back in Jan(?) and had it generating some news summaries for me and stuff. But ran out of ideas... would like to try it out again.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by jddj »

cassianoleal wrote: post #13
segmondy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there is no debacle, ". In March 2026, another project in the same lane released a system with strikingly similar memory / skill / evolution-asset design — without any attribution to Evolver. " there is nothing new about memory (aka sessions saved), skills (aka prompt in a file), etc folks have been doing this for 2+ years.

I'm sorry but if this is not a debacle, then we're operating under very different premises: - teknium1 retitled the original issue to "." and edited the issue text to "." - Nous Research deleted comments from 4 users, including the issue submitter, and blocked all of them. - No formal response has been given by teknium or the Nous Research project. It appears they are trying their darndest to brush it under the rug.…

I think they probably understand that those complaints hold weight within a <=2010s ethical framework but now we live in the brave new world.
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