The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy
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Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy
#42> SK Telecom has poured capital into Anthropic several times, including a $100 million investment in 2023 that coincided with the formation of a commercial partnership to develop an AI model tailored to the telecommunications industry. > the White House asked Anthropic to revoke SK Telecom’s access to Mythos, according to a person close to the AI lab. The company immediately complied, Lesson learned - don't invest in…
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Lesson learned become more knowledgeable and learn more about the open source models and start getting busy and learn how to use them, also collaborate with any European solution, forget about the US.
Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy
#43its very real, chinese capital is being intertwined/injected into all facet of south korean society through its own domestic companies and politicians.
Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy
#44This whole Fable 5 controversy will look quite silly once China releases a comparable model in six months.
Google can't do it, OpenAI didn't do it, Meta didn't do it etc etc.
Why do you think China will?
I am quite certain the gap will only grow
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their investment in the company and their ability to use the services are orthogonal. I'm sure they're not happy about losing access to the model, but the amount of money they're going to make from their investment will more than make up for it.
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Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy
#46The articles and discussion around this and the Amazon story all seem to me to be an earnest tech press and community searching for a genuine reason for the administration blocking Anthropic’s models. However, thinking back to the spat with the DoD and more generally how the administration is much more supportive - and supported by - OpenAI and XAI and it’s easy to imagine this is just another escalation in the fight…
Anthropic is going through the classic Ideological Resistance phase where they fight with the government on principles, that every major tech company also went through. Google, Facebook, Apple, Reddit, Microsoft (especially Microsoft) all had this phase. Then the companies realize fighting the US government is a lot of effort, expensive and creates a lot of drama, and it's easier to reach a mutual understanding.
They should’ve kept their distance from the government as long as they could don’t volunteer to be helpful. Don’t volunteer to go meet with politicians keep as low profile as you can for as long as you can. Nothing good comes with associating with them.
Have a legal department trained to be the buffer between you and the government any contact any questions goes through them and since you’re paying them a ton of money, they are the only people the politicians should get to know, oh, and again and again do not volunteer anything.
Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy
#47> SK Telecom has poured capital into Anthropic several times, including a $100 million investment in 2023 that coincided with the formation of a commercial partnership to develop an AI model tailored to the telecommunications industry. > the White House asked Anthropic to revoke SK Telecom’s access to Mythos, according to a person close to the AI lab. The company immediately complied, Lesson learned - don't invest in…
Their investment in the company and their ability to use the services are orthogonal. I'm sure they're not happy about losing access to the model, but the amount of money they're going to make from their investment will more than make up for it.
Not if the company implodes...
Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their investment in the company and their ability to use the services are orthogonal. I'm sure they're not happy about losing access to the model, but the amount of money they're going to make from their investment will more than make up for it.
The company having it's product market restricted will negatively impact their financial investment. Also if you have an agreement with a company for them to provide you with a service, and investing in them is part of that deal, reneging on the service part still isn't okay.
> The company having it's product market restricted will negatively impact their financial investment.
Anthropic's services keep bumping into capacity limits even with Fable disabled.
Revenue is not a problem. This controversy has been good publicity for them: So powerful the government tried to block it!
> Also if you have an agreement with a company for them to provide you with a service, and investing in them is part of that deal, reneging on the service part still isn't okay.
Reneging on the deal implies Anthropic decided not to offer it. That wasn't the case. The government has temporarily restricted it.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure they exist but they're rare, difficult to identify and hire, and take years to train. Mythos/Fable is available on tap.
I can also use the models anytime, and for a lot of time, until i’m anywhere close to salary for an engineer like that
sure. and when you do have that money then you magically become altruistic and decide to pay that salary even though it costs you more
Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy
#50The articles and discussion around this and the Amazon story all seem to me to be an earnest tech press and community searching for a genuine reason for the administration blocking Anthropic’s models. However, thinking back to the spat with the DoD and more generally how the administration is much more supportive - and supported by - OpenAI and XAI and it’s easy to imagine this is just another escalation in the fight…
Anthropic is going through the classic Ideological Resistance phase where they fight with the government on principles, that every major tech company also went through. Google, Facebook, Apple, Reddit, Microsoft (especially Microsoft) all had this phase. Then the companies realize fighting the US government is a lot of effort, expensive and creates a lot of drama, and it's easier to reach a mutual understanding.
You're talking like it's business as usual. None of these companies had anything similar to this retaliation