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'Wow, it really worked ': 70s TV show causing worldwide panic today

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Re: 'Wow, it really worked ': 70s TV show causing worldwide panic today

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was in the car listening to Howard Stern. Someone called in about it. They treated it as a joke at first. As it started playing out they realized that not only was it real but it was more than just a simple accident. THat's when I flipped over to the news radio station.

Once the event was underway, I recall Howard Stern providing rather good up-to-the-minute reporting about the event, by way of guests calling in. While the mainstream news was floundering around with stale info and generally not really knowing what was going on, you could get pretty decent information from the Stern show. Apart the occasional guest callers just calling in and shouting "baba booey," his coverage was q…

Tangent but I recall /. being one of the only sites that could withstand the onslaught of people trying to follow the news online.

Which is weird because writing this comment made me go glance at /. and it's sad what it ultimately became.

Re: 'Wow, it really worked ': 70s TV show causing worldwide panic today

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once the event was underway, I recall Howard Stern providing rather good up-to-the-minute reporting about the event, by way of guests calling in. While the mainstream news was floundering around with stale info and generally not really knowing what was going on, you could get pretty decent information from the Stern show. Apart the occasional guest callers just calling in and shouting "baba booey," his coverage was q…

Tangent but I recall /. being one of the only sites that could withstand the onslaught of people trying to follow the news online. Which is weird because writing this comment made me go glance at /. and it's sad what it ultimately became.

Yes, I was in college and it took me a while to realize I needed to actually turn on the news, because all the mainstream websites were wrong.

Oddly enough, neither of my classes were cancelled, despite being only a little over 2 hours down 95 from NYC.

Re: 'Wow, it really worked ': 70s TV show causing worldwide panic today

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post #18

Personal anecdote: I was in college when 9/11 happened. Back then, in the late 1990s and early 2000s, radio was still a major part of daily life. iPods, iPhones, and streaming didn’t exist yet. Morning radio shows often did live prank calls to keep things entertaining. DJs would pretend to be the president or do some other ridiculous bit, and it was usually silly / harmless / funny. I remember driving to class that m…

My friend and I discussed that our generation didn't have a thing that we formed a cohort around. He said something like "catastrophe, tomorrow" and I said, probably in NYC and started recording the police/fire frequencies out of NYC. I went to bed sometime around midnight PST on the night of the tenth.

So I have the entire thing on police radio.

Just as a fluke.

There's a snippet on my SoundCloud.

Re: 'Wow, it really worked ': 70s TV show causing worldwide panic today

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post #18

Personal anecdote: I was in college when 9/11 happened. Back then, in the late 1990s and early 2000s, radio was still a major part of daily life. iPods, iPhones, and streaming didn’t exist yet. Morning radio shows often did live prank calls to keep things entertaining. DJs would pretend to be the president or do some other ridiculous bit, and it was usually silly / harmless / funny. I remember driving to class that m…

I was at my desk here at work (yes, believe it or not, I still work at the same place I did 25 years ago) and as soon as it happened, all the major newspaper websites got overwhelmed and became unreachable. I ended up getting news from the Times of India's website because it was keeping up with the story but wasn't getting hit as hard as the others.

Same! I remember a co-worker getting a call from a relative about it so I went to cnn.com. ...only to see it time out. Same with usatoday.com and abcnews.com. At that point I knew that something was happening.

I then happened to remember that abcnews.com.au existed and figured Australia's websites weren't getting hit quite as hard as ours, and I was right. It was front page news there.

We all left the office (which was in Center City Philadelphia) a few minutes later.

Re: 'Wow, it really worked ': 70s TV show causing worldwide panic today

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was at my desk here at work (yes, believe it or not, I still work at the same place I did 25 years ago) and as soon as it happened, all the major newspaper websites got overwhelmed and became unreachable. I ended up getting news from the Times of India's website because it was keeping up with the story but wasn't getting hit as hard as the others.

I remember trying to reach CNN.com on a school library computer. Eventually CNN put up a lightweight version that scaled better.

CNN Lite is still available. It's amazing how much better the experience is. https://lite.cnn.com/

Re: 'Wow, it really worked ': 70s TV show causing worldwide panic today

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post #18

Personal anecdote: I was in college when 9/11 happened. Back then, in the late 1990s and early 2000s, radio was still a major part of daily life. iPods, iPhones, and streaming didn’t exist yet. Morning radio shows often did live prank calls to keep things entertaining. DJs would pretend to be the president or do some other ridiculous bit, and it was usually silly / harmless / funny. I remember driving to class that m…

My friend and I discussed that our generation didn't have a thing that we formed a cohort around. He said something like "catastrophe, tomorrow" and I said, probably in NYC and started recording the police/fire frequencies out of NYC. I went to bed sometime around midnight PST on the night of the tenth. So I have the entire thing on police radio. Just as a fluke. There's a snippet on my SoundCloud.

Please, please publish the entirety of this data. It is important historical record.

Re: 'Wow, it really worked ': 70s TV show causing worldwide panic today

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My friend and I discussed that our generation didn't have a thing that we formed a cohort around. He said something like "catastrophe, tomorrow" and I said, probably in NYC and started recording the police/fire frequencies out of NYC. I went to bed sometime around midnight PST on the night of the tenth. So I have the entire thing on police radio. Just as a fluke. There's a snippet on my SoundCloud.

Please, please publish the entirety of this data. It is important historical record.

Nice try, FBI agent.

Re: 'Wow, it really worked ': 70s TV show causing worldwide panic today

#49

After watching Disclosure Day with my kids, we had an interesting conversation on the way home - what would it take for you to believe that aliens are real and visting Earth? With the advancement of image and video generation, I think I'd have to see one in person!

How do you know that you haven't?

Re: 'Wow, it really worked ': 70s TV show causing worldwide panic today

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> Over the past few months, a strange story has been seeping into the mainstream media from the more excitable corners of Substack and YouTube. Its claim: scientists whose work related to aerospace and nuclear research are either dying or going missing. According to an influential report in the Daily Mail in March, the disappearances form a “chilling pattern”: two, for instance, had worked together at an air force laboratory. The implications, in some accounts, are Hollywood sinister, with scientists working on top-secret breakthroughs running into dark forces who wanted to get hold of what they knew – or ensure their silence. And it all seems to have something to do with what we used to call UFOs.

I was completely unaware until seeing this very article that there were people on "the more excitable corners of Substack and YouTube" talking about a specific conspiracy that aerospace and nuclear research scientists were mysteriously disappearing. Although if you had asked me, say, an hour ago before I started reading this article, "hey, are there people on Substack and YouTube who are promulgating a conspiracy theory about the US government nefariously disappearing aerospace and nuclear research scientists?" I probably would have answered "yeah, this sounds like the sort of thing that someone on the internet is claiming is happening".

> On examination, these claims collapse. The “scientists” actually worked in disparate fields, from chemical biology to plasma physics. Several were actually administrators. Two had retired. One died of natural causes; another in a shooting spree. In any case, as the debunker Mick West pointed out, the “US top secret-cleared aerospace and nuclear workforce” is around 700,000, so normal mortality rates would predict far more deaths over the 22 months concerned – about 4,000.

If I had been aware of people online talking about this, I probably would have assumed that they were uncritically reading conspiracy into a particular reading of some banal facts like the above - if I had even bothered to spend more than a second investigating the claims.

Here's a thought - how much credence should I put into this reporting by The Guardian about the existence of an internet-spread conspiracy theory in 2026 about the US government disappearing scientists, that is loosely based on a 1970s British hoax TV show in the vein of Orson Welles' War of the Worlds called "Alternative 3", that I have never previously heard of? This article is actually kind of light on details about how this modern-day conspiracy theory is operating, and indeed how it connects to this British TV show. Are they actually related, or did the modern-day theory just happen by chance to involve phenomena that sound kind of similar to what the writers of Alternative 3 came up with?

Here's another thought - did the editorial staff of The Guardian choose to write and publish an article about this 70s TV broadcast (which maybe some of them remembered seeing as kids, or seeing referenced in British culture decades ago?) because the Mars colonization angle reminds people of Elon Musk, a public figure who has been publicly talking about Mars colonization for many years, and who the sorts of people who work at The Guardian openly dislike for political reasons? Maybe that's the actual conspiracy - people who work at a well-known newspaper with a specific political stance published a thinly-sourced article that lets them subtly imply that a thing associated with one of their political enemies is sinister?

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