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4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Post by brynnbee »

emptybits wrote: post #4

Bemotrizinol is the ingredient being discussed. If you're looking for a specific product to try, check out Ombrelle and also La Roche-Posay's Anthelios line. I share this as a Canadian (bemotrizinol has been available here for years), but check the ingredients because it may vary by country because of regulations. Aside: I did a bunch of sunscreen research some time ago for my family. I like the non-absorbing/non-rea…

Anthelios line still contains homosalate in a concentration 20x higher than recommended by EU. I do like that brand a lot though.

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Post by mil22 »

retired wrote: post #37
mil22 wrote: post #18

BEMT is the first new ingredient allowed by the FDA since the 1990s. It's meaningful but a very narrow decision. The FDA still has not approved any of the following sunscreens that have been widely used outside of the US, in some cases for decades: - DHHB / Uvinul A Plus - EHT / Uvinul T150 - MBBT / Tinosorb M - Iscotrizinol / Uvasorb HEB - Drometrizole trisiloxane - Mexoryl XL - Methoxypropylamino cyclohexenylidene…

You are taking a risk with your health by importing sun screen that has not been FDA approved.

It may surprise you to learn that there are countries that have better laws and regulations than the US.

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Post by picofarad »

y-curious wrote: post #34
Grombobulous wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly, you’ll have to wait for those brands in the US. > DSM-Firmenich has exclusive rights to market bemotrizinol in the U.S. for 18 months. It will be sold under the brand name Parsol Shield.

Well, you could have and still can buy them shipped from other countries on sites like eBay. Shame it has to come to this in the land of the free, however.

Tpu were free to bid competitively to have exclusive rights for your company. What's the problem?

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Post by milch »

andrew_lettuce wrote: post #8
erelong wrote: post #6

certain long clothes allows for skipping sunscreen entirely in perpetuity

This isn't realistic for something likeriding your bike where you get lots of sun on your face and limbs.

The limbs you can deal with, at least. I've done century rides in 100°F+ weather wearing UPF 50 sleeves the whole way... it's actually quite nice because you dip them in water, and they end up staying saturated for a long time. Together with the airflow from the ride it keeps you cool as well as protecting from the sun

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Post by retired »

mil22 wrote: post #42
retired wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are taking a risk with your health by importing sun screen that has not been FDA approved.

It may surprise you to learn that there are countries that have better laws and regulations than the US.

Such as? Most of Europe has far less regulations when it comes to sunscreen, as it is classified as cosmetics not drugs.

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Post by Grombobulous »

y-curious wrote: post #34
Grombobulous wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly, you’ll have to wait for those brands in the US. > DSM-Firmenich has exclusive rights to market bemotrizinol in the U.S. for 18 months. It will be sold under the brand name Parsol Shield.

Well, you could have and still can buy them shipped from other countries on sites like eBay. Shame it has to come to this in the land of the free, however.

I guess I’m unsure if the FDA approval makes importing these legal.

I also imagine that it’s not really worth doing just to get a specific brand in terms of cost.

An 18-month exclusive period is annoying but not the end of the world.

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Post by culi »

emptybits wrote: post #4

Bemotrizinol is the ingredient being discussed. If you're looking for a specific product to try, check out Ombrelle and also La Roche-Posay's Anthelios line. I share this as a Canadian (bemotrizinol has been available here for years), but check the ingredients because it may vary by country because of regulations. Aside: I did a bunch of sunscreen research some time ago for my family. I like the non-absorbing/non-rea…

Synthesized from hydroxyphenyl-triazines (HPTs). HPTs were invented to protect materials like automotive paints, aerospace coatings, and heavy-duty plastics from solar degradation.

It doesn't seem to bioaccumulate in marine organisms despite the fact that it doesn't biodegrade. This seems to be due to the sheer size of the compound making it not easily cross the biological membranes. It does however accumulate on lake and ocean bed sediments so there are still some long term concerns.

Overall it's environmental profile seems like a huge step up from previous classes of sunscreen chemicals but it's not perfect either.

Re: 4 things to know about the new sunscreen ingredient the FDA approved

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Post by culi »

emeril wrote: post #40
emptybits wrote: post #4

Bemotrizinol is the ingredient being discussed. If you're looking for a specific product to try, check out Ombrelle and also La Roche-Posay's Anthelios line. I share this as a Canadian (bemotrizinol has been available here for years), but check the ingredients because it may vary by country because of regulations. Aside: I did a bunch of sunscreen research some time ago for my family. I like the non-absorbing/non-rea…

why not just get the least obtrusive physical sunscreen like "clear" thinksport? My fear is that all of these chemical based ones increase the rates of disease in susceptible populations which is hard to detect

The large physical size of the compound means it has trouble passing through biological membranes. This is why it has really low toxicity and doesn't bioaccumulate despite the fact that it doesn't biodegrade over time.

It does seem to accumulate on lake and ocean floors though. I think the larger concern is not on human or animal health but on long term ecological consequences which are harder to study

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