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Oh good, screwworms are back (2025)

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Re: Oh good, screwworms are back (2025)

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>We have had our access to medications for livestock severely curtailed over recent years. Oh no, tell me it's not ivermectin...

Are you saying this because you only recognize the name from breathless covid propaganda? Or because you know ivermectin is pretty important in livestock management.

Re: Oh good, screwworms are back (2025)

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Trust in science is so low in the US that this was bound to happen. The author's conclusion nails it: But institutional failures like this aren’t just the aggregate failure of a number of irresponsible people, they are a failure of a cultural attitude that doesn’t demand excellence from everyone in order to get the job done. I'll add though that when crisis happens the entity 'doing something about it' suddenly looks…

Is this like fouci funding gain of function research and then being in charge of managing results (including but not limited to suppressing information about his role in it)?

Spotted the intellectual.

Re: Oh good, screwworms are back (2025)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tariffs would not stop the screw worm, which lives half of its life as a winged fly.

A fly that naturally spreads one mile per day does not travel from Panama to Texas in four years.

Maybe it came by a faster method.

Re: Oh good, screwworms are back (2025)

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It wasn't herds of cattle moving through the jungles of Central America that likely helped the screwworm breach the barrier we'd been maintaining for decades. It was mass human migration. Once they managed to move north any animal was a potential host, not just commercial critters.

And even then it probably could've been held at bay and fought back south, except Mexico in particular was extremely sensitive about any suggestion they might not have everything completely under control.

Even so, the US started contingency plans a while ago just in case, and construction of the new facility. The comments here are quick to try to take a jab at the government but short of nuking southern Mexico from sea to glowing sea once the screwworms breached the line, and that breach wasn't US territory, don't know how this was ever going to play out differently unless the locals at every step of the way stepped up.

Re: Oh good, screwworms are back (2025)

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>We have had our access to medications for livestock severely curtailed over recent years. Oh no, tell me it's not ivermectin...

Ivermectin is readily given to livestock. Sheep even get immersed in a bath of it, you can buy sheep drench in the same farm supply store you'll find the apple flavored ivermectin paste for horses.

Re: Oh good, screwworms are back (2025)

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Trust in science is so low in the US that this was bound to happen. The author's conclusion nails it: But institutional failures like this aren’t just the aggregate failure of a number of irresponsible people, they are a failure of a cultural attitude that doesn’t demand excellence from everyone in order to get the job done. I'll add though that when crisis happens the entity 'doing something about it' suddenly looks…

Is this like fouci funding gain of function research and then being in charge of managing results (including but not limited to suppressing information about his role in it)?

Was it ever really suppressed, if everyone knew about it? Because it was public information. No conspiracy.

The Right: "Nobody is talking about subject X, where is free speech". -> meanwhile -> "Everyone is talking about subject X", because you always had free speech. It was just a McGuffin to rile up the base and take control so you can suppress others.

Re: Oh good, screwworms are back (2025)

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When I was doing my PhD in bio one of my colleagues developed something called CRISPR gene drive, which had the potential of exterminating species wholesale. There was talk of using it to wipe out mosquito populations.

The riskiness of it was quite high though. Wonder if people will consider reviving it in this case.

Re: Oh good, screwworms are back (2025)

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Trust in science is so low in the US that this was bound to happen. The author's conclusion nails it: But institutional failures like this aren’t just the aggregate failure of a number of irresponsible people, they are a failure of a cultural attitude that doesn’t demand excellence from everyone in order to get the job done. I'll add though that when crisis happens the entity 'doing something about it' suddenly looks…

A lesson from The Incredibles which we didn’t collectively learn.
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