What's the point of a "confidential S-1"?? Isn't the S-1 supposed to inform potential investors?!? So ... shouldn't it _not_ be confidential??
Confidential submission of draft S-1 to the SEC
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#42I don’t get what’s the point of non-profits if you can IPO them. How does that make any sense?
See: https://www.axios.com/2023/11/18/how-openai-board-is-structu... for the OpenAI Structure. 1) In order to fund research - this stuff costs 10s of billions of dollars - everyone, from Ilya, to Elon, to Sam - all agreed that they would require a profit-arm to raise money. Nobody was going to sponsor that 10s of billions of dollars to a non-profit. 2) The non profit is still there - and controls the commercial eleme…
How much has MacKenzie Scott donated to non-profits again?
Seems like such a claim is on thin ice.
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#43Re: Confidential submission of draft S-1 to the SEC
#44This is the true definition of AGI and will be achieved this year. The I in AGI has always stood for IPO.
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#45Here we go… Let’s see if retail investors are indeed exit liquidity or not
Re: Confidential submission of draft S-1 to the SEC
#46I don’t get what’s the point of non-profits if you can IPO them. How does that make any sense?
See: https://www.axios.com/2023/11/18/how-openai-board-is-structu... for the OpenAI Structure. 1) In order to fund research - this stuff costs 10s of billions of dollars - everyone, from Ilya, to Elon, to Sam - all agreed that they would require a profit-arm to raise money. Nobody was going to sponsor that 10s of billions of dollars to a non-profit. 2) The non profit is still there - and controls the commercial eleme…
That will be especially untrue after IPO when shareholders can claim there are fiduciary responsibilities that conflict with the non profit goals.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
They need to financially engineer a good looking quarter beforehand. Perhaps Larry Ellison can cut them a nice quid pro quo for a few months to make OpenAI look profitable (like the SpaceX/Anthropic deal), although that's probably unlikely given the debt Oracle is taking on to build it's infra.
You are forgetting the google space x deal too
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#49Re: Confidential submission of draft S-1 to the SEC
#50I don’t get what’s the point of non-profits if you can IPO them. How does that make any sense?
They're IPOing a commercial subsidiary of OpenAI so that it can donate even more money to the parent nonprofit. (Actually the subsidiary is everything and the nonprofit is a do-nothing fig leaf but the IRS and Congress seem to not care enough to stop them.)