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There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Steam will near saturate a 1Gb pipe for me. I have downloaded quite a few Linux ISOs from mirrors at 90MB/s.

I think that is more so due to overhead in writing files and most likely also doing some live decompression or some other stuff. After all it does not download single file like iso would be.

It actually isn't all that different. A lot of modern games are basically a smallish exe and a single giant Assets file that's many many GB, and is some sort of encrypyted (or not) filesystem image.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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If the author ever talked to a gamer, they would have learned how ignorant they are. edit: in case it's not clear, when every other new game from major publisher starts at 50GB or 100GB and can sometimes be 300+GB, waiting 2hrs to download it is terrible and horrible for energy use.

The author (me) does play games. I'm on PC, Oculus, and console. The console downloads are limited by the upstream. The VR games are limited by WiFi. I've never noticed the PC games getting close to the max download speed I have. But, to go to your edit. Is there a significant difference between waiting 90 minutes and 45 minutes? Either way, you set the download going, grab some food, have a bath, whatever, right?

Not everyone plays the same games, play games in the same way, or has the same lifestyle as yous.

Just one example: If I find two hours on a weekday evening to play games (when I am often occupied by other things on other days) and I want to play the latest games, I don't want to spend 90 minutes waiting. If that window is gone, I need to move on.

(You could argue I could plan ahead, look up how large the game is, download it a day before blahblah. You'll be absolutely correct, but I can also assure you almost nobody does that. Network speed can be also very unstable/unpredictable.)

And I'm sure people who are on Game Pass would like a word with you.

Never generalize your own experience.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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Virgin (cable) gigabit is definitely pointless due to the latency. Not to mention the congestion and outages

A good Openreach ISP (FTTP) however, fairly worth it on a good deal. You get more upload with more download bandwidth, so if you do lots of off-site backing up it can be very useful

I get 8ms on OpenReach vs 15ms plus on Virgin

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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people tend also to confuse latency vs speed. if u have lower latency <25ms & a 25Mbps .. your connection feels faster than having 100ms latency + whatever speed.

Not really because the latency of, say, clicking a web link and the website showing on screen depends on throughput, not just ping latency.

Re: There's still no point in gigabit broadband

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For a developer, there is a lot of benefits in having at least 1 Gb/s internet connection. Obviously, downloads of software, docker images take significantly less time than 100 Mb/s connection could ever provide. But the benefits do not end there. Publishing of build artifacts, websites etc. are significantly sped up as well.

And the most important perk: you can self-host certain parts of your infrastructure by keeping VPS or cloud-based facade for SSL termination, while back-channeling all the traffic to the actual worker machine that sits in your basement behind the NAT. By doing so, you can immensely economize on your monthly spend by reducing it N times, where N is typically ranging from 2 to 10.

P.S. Some context: I am a long time internet user who first connected in 1996 and went through every wave of infrastructural changes, starting with dial-up 33 Kb/s, then 56 Kb/s, then dorm ethernet 10 Mb/s, followed by DSL 20 Mb/s, fiber 100 Mb/s, fiber 1 Gb/s.

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