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Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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Post by sublinear »

crims0n wrote: post #36
rusk wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience it’s usually the other way around

It is a curious thing how drinking affects people in different ways. Some people get reflective, others belligerent.

Endocrine and nervous system function take a dramatic shift when processing alcohol.

The aggressive drunks didn't get there overnight. They drink more heavily and regularly. Their nervous system is amped up even when "sober", but it takes months to years to fully recover from that state and there might even be permanent nerve damage. All this to say, they will just drink again to calm their nerves and are easily pissed off. That's alcoholism for you.

On the flip side, some of the most body aware and even keeled people I've ever known are recovered alcoholics. There's a reason alcohol has been a rite of passage for most of human history.

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Post by thriei93i3i3 »

brodo wrote: post #33

The whole field of evolutionary psychology is in a replication crisis, and there are several newer studies that did not find any evidence for any changes in 'mate preference' across the ovulatory cycle. General sexual desire, but not desire for uncommitted sexual relationships, tracks changes in women's hormonal status https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29287282/ Meta-Analysis of Menstrual Cycle Effects on Women’s Mate…

"Replication crisis" is way too kind. The whole research field has the same credibility, as the "size does not matter" fact.

Re: Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]

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Post by readthenotes1 »

wjnc wrote: post #39
arowthway wrote: post #29

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I love evolutionary psychology trivia but for me it's kind of hard to meaningfully fit 0.13 standard deviation shift in preferences into my world model.

I stubbed my toe. I don’t feel like ice cream today.

There are a lot of things it is worrisome to feel like.

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Post by readthenotes1 »

andyferris wrote: post #20
block_dagger wrote: post #8

Findings of TFA: Yes. Women show a robust increase in attraction to cues of ancestral genetic quality (body masculinity, behavioral dominance) on high-fertility days, but only when evaluating men as short-term/unspecified sexual partners, not long-term partners.

Can we summarize this as "people get horny sometimes" and "ovulating people get horny"? Or is that too reductive?

It is probably safer. Summarize it as sociology during the replication crisis

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Post by fittingopposite »

hambes wrote: post #23

I am not scientist enough to judge this, so please someone enlighten me: most categories i've read through that find a shift do so with an increase of about 0.1-0.2 standard deviations. that does not sound significant to me. is that enough to make the claims this study makes?

Statistically significant does not necessarily mean practically significant. If you just increase your sample size sufficiently, you can measure a significant effect, despite having a small magnitude of the measured effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_(statistics)#:~:text=Sta...

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Post by corwinxpro »

jasonlotito wrote: post #31
corwinxpro wrote: post #28

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What do you wonder exactly? Where is the confusion? Do you not know what ovulation is? Ovulation is the phase of the menstrual cycle when a mature egg is released from the ovary. Do you not understand what people are? People is an American weekly magazine that specializes in celebrity news and human-interest stories. Okay, I'm being cheeky here. Or is it that you assume that people can't ovulate? I can assure you, th…

Correct, _people_ cannot ovulate. (Some) females can ovulate. One case of an unusual cytogenetically proved phenotypically male fertile hermaphrodite can ovulate.

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Post by jasonlotito »

corwinxpro wrote: post #46
jasonlotito wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you wonder exactly? Where is the confusion? Do you not know what ovulation is? Ovulation is the phase of the menstrual cycle when a mature egg is released from the ovary. Do you not understand what people are? People is an American weekly magazine that specializes in celebrity news and human-interest stories. Okay, I'm being cheeky here. Or is it that you assume that people can't ovulate? I can assure you, th…

Correct, _people_ cannot ovulate. (Some) females can ovulate. One case of an unusual cytogenetically proved phenotypically male fertile hermaphrodite can ovulate.

Wrong. You didn't read my post. 100% willful ignorance and wrong.

> One case

among many more.

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Post by jasonlotito »

marcinostefano wrote: post #38
Kuraj wrote: post #35

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You literally got a research paper proving the contrary handed to you on a silver platter. We know what you were trying to say, the parent comment is calling you out

Oh, so because this one occurrence of disorder, we are now speaking “ovulating people” instead of “ovulating woman”. Not because of some people who don’t know what a woman is?

> Oh, so because this one occurrence

It's more than one occurrence.

> Not because of some people who don’t know what a woman is?

You could learn, but you champion willful ignorance.

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Post by jasonlotito »

Kuraj wrote: post #35
marcinostefano wrote: post #34

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In human spieces only woman is able to ovulate.

You literally got a research paper proving the contrary handed to you on a silver platter. We know what you were trying to say, the parent comment is calling you out

They choose to remain willfully ignorant, ignoring science and prefer the ways of lies and deception. No amount of logic, facts, or intelligence will sway them.

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

bestouff wrote: post #16
Hnrobert42 wrote: post #5

It's 2026, and I still can't read a PDF on mobile. I must be doing something wrong. I'm using FF Focus. Is that it? I tried Safari. Either they moved the reader button, or it's not present for PDFs. Help me Obi-Wan.

Under Firefox Focus I can read it if I manually zoom and scroll. Not ideal.

That's exactly what I mean. This is how animals live.
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