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Mostly current valid user agents, lots of ip addresses, but the traffic patterns are not organic. I’m not clear if it’s bad ai scraping or dos, but at some level it’s indistinguishable.
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Because they inserted themselves into almost everything we do online and basically managed to take control over it. Cloudflare should never have been allowed to man in the middle the entire internet, but now that they have they're the only man on earth with a dataset that size.
(I'm ex CF) This is backwards. Nobody "allowed" anyting. CF serves a customers need. You can argue with the solution but you can't argue with the core problem. It's more healthy to start the conversation of _why_ CF services are valuable.
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> It looks to me like the data supports "bots passed human traffic" I think you are missing the fact that the dashboard has HTML pre-selected as a filter. Once you change that to all content types, you’ll see humans account for twice as much traffic as bots. Note this part of the article: > The CEO ignored the all-traffic number, on his own dashboard, and instead published the HTML-only number as a fact about the who…
Personally I think that limiting the stats to just HTML pages is a credible stat on which you could claim that "bots passed human traffic". I don't care about bots downloading other types of content. The most important thing is to link to your methodology, which Cloudflare's CEO did in this case.
"Cloudflare CEO is lying" is a bit of an aggressive take when he linked to the exact data so you can see it for yourself - and that's how this article was able to analyze it: https://radar.cloudflare.com/traffic#bot-vs-human Update: I see the problem. Here's the full tweet: https://x.com/eastdakota/status/2062212701414187452 "Thought it would be end of 2027, then early 2027, but agentic traffic growing so fast that b…
Cloudflare is junk. Their entire billion dollar service can't distinguish my (DAILY) GET request to mainstream news sites from bot traffic, nothing they say or do is of any value. I've had the same IP for decades.
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(I'm ex CF) This is backwards. Nobody "allowed" anyting. CF serves a customers need. You can argue with the solution but you can't argue with the core problem. It's more healthy to start the conversation of _why_ CF services are valuable.
No, it's more healthy to start the conversation on why we allow corporations to do bad things with excuses like "just serving customer's needs"
I run some moderate profile gov and ngo opendata sites, and I’d say that bot like traffic is 99% of the requests we’re seeing on some sites. Mostly current valid user agents, lots of ip addresses, but the traffic patterns are not organic. I’m not clear if it’s bad ai scraping or dos, but at some level it’s indistinguishable.
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No, it's more healthy to start the conversation on why we allow corporations to do bad things with excuses like "just serving customer's needs"
I don't get it, what is bad about what they are doing? People need a CDN, they choose the one they find the best.
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(I'm ex CF) This is backwards. Nobody "allowed" anyting. CF serves a customers need. You can argue with the solution but you can't argue with the core problem. It's more healthy to start the conversation of _why_ CF services are valuable.
CF's current position in the internet is way larger than "serves a customer's need"
There is a unfortunate incentive created when a "business" (MiTM) depends on "bot traffic", i.e., the continued nuisance of bot traffic, to make money If the "bot traffic" declines, then the "bot protection business" goes down with it Cloudflare communication are sometimes careful to refer to traffic _labeled as_ bot traffic versus actual bot traffic Because the "business" relies on the existance of "bot traffic", th…