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Re: Separate the cord from the device

#41

Post by rahimnathwani »

I grew up in the UK. Electric kettles are more common there than they are in the US because:

- People drink at all times of day, and

- Household power sockets can deliver a lot of power (a typical $30 kettle in the UK is rated at 3kW vs. US where 1.8kW is normal even for more expensive ones)

Anyway, before kettles became cordless[0], they all had detachable leads. And there was a standard. So you could use any 'kettle lead' with any brand or model of kettle.

To this day I still use 'kettle lead' to refer to the type of cable used to power a desktop PC.

[0] the kettle itself has no cord, but the base has a hard-wired cord

Re: Separate the cord from the device

#43

Post by asplake »

Chaosvex wrote: post #34
SpecialistK wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

C13/C14 connectors are even known as "kettle leads" in some places.

Kettle plugs in the UK, close enough. I'm not sure if most kettles even use them at this point.

“Kettle lead” is definitely good here too. It is, after all, more than just a plug.

Re: Separate the cord from the device

#44

Post by 2dvisio »

rahimnathwani wrote: post #41

I grew up in the UK. Electric kettles are more common there than they are in the US because: - People drink at all times of day, and - Household power sockets can deliver a lot of power (a typical $30 kettle in the UK is rated at 3kW vs. US where 1.8kW is normal even for more expensive ones) Anyway, before kettles became cordless[0], they all had detachable leads. And there was a standard. So you could use any 'kettl…

One of the best moka pots I owned is the Bialetti Elettrika [1] which comes exactly with a detachable lead like the one you mention. But for me, coming from outside of the UK and never experienced the kettle lead situation, it has always been the opposite, the pot has a ‘computer lead’ :)

[1] https://www.bialetti.com/ee_en/moka-elettrika.html

Re: Separate the cord from the device

#45

Post by emmanueloga_ »

clayhacks wrote: post #5

I’m a big fan of this notion. My hot water dispenser has a magnetic power dongle kinda like macbooks MagSafe, but bulkier [0]. Ideally something like that would be more standardized across appliances the way some of the other three prong power cords are. [0]: https://youtu.be/E2WrHHRYrV4?t=108

Right! [0] Apparently there are not many standard connectors like these, but I found at least one [1] ...

0: https://www.zojirushi.com/blog/design-explained-our-easy-rel...

1: https://www.mcmaster.com/products/breakaway-magnetic-connect...

Re: Separate the cord from the device

#46

Post by Chaosvex »

asplake wrote: post #43
Chaosvex wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kettle plugs in the UK, close enough. I'm not sure if most kettles even use them at this point.

“Kettle lead” is definitely good here too. It is, after all, more than just a plug.

Yeah, I know, I was just giving the colloquial name for them in the UK. We like calling things plugs, including what you might call a socket or outlet. Not exclusively but very commonly.

Re: Separate the cord from the device

#47

Post by SpecialistK »

Chaosvex wrote: post #34
SpecialistK wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

C13/C14 connectors are even known as "kettle leads" in some places.

Kettle plugs in the UK, close enough. I'm not sure if most kettles even use them at this point.

I'm from the UK (although haven't been there for a decade+) and remember "lead" being used in place of "cable" or "cord" by those around me. Plug would be the other end, which goes into the Mains.

Re: Separate the cord from the device

#48

Post by rahimnathwani »

2dvisio wrote: post #44
rahimnathwani wrote: post #41

I grew up in the UK. Electric kettles are more common there than they are in the US because: - People drink at all times of day, and - Household power sockets can deliver a lot of power (a typical $30 kettle in the UK is rated at 3kW vs. US where 1.8kW is normal even for more expensive ones) Anyway, before kettles became cordless[0], they all had detachable leads. And there was a standard. So you could use any 'kettl…

One of the best moka pots I owned is the Bialetti Elettrika [1] which comes exactly with a detachable lead like the one you mention. But for me, coming from outside of the UK and never experienced the kettle lead situation, it has always been the opposite, the pot has a ‘computer lead’ :) [1] https://www.bialetti.com/ee_en/moka-elettrika.html

'One of'!!!

How many moka pots does one person need?!?

Re: Separate the cord from the device

#49

Post by burnte »

Zak wrote: post #17

This is my pet peeve about USB-C laptop docks. The vast majority of them have a captive cable, usually about 10cm long. It's a failure point, often an inconvenient length, and makes them much harder to pack.

I see both sides, having a removable dock-cable is nice but then you run the risk of users using low-spec cables that don't work with the dock, and people blame the dock.

Re: Separate the cord from the device

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Post by Zak »

burnte wrote: post #49
Zak wrote: post #17

This is my pet peeve about USB-C laptop docks. The vast majority of them have a captive cable, usually about 10cm long. It's a failure point, often an inconvenient length, and makes them much harder to pack.

I see both sides, having a removable dock-cable is nice but then you run the risk of users using low-spec cables that don't work with the dock, and people blame the dock.

I imagine that is one of the reasons. It probably also lowers costs a little.

Sometimes the market rejects making products worse to lower costs or discourage user error. I wish that was the case here.

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