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Han Unification was effectively "fixed" by Ideographic Variation Sequences, so no.
You mean theoretically. Effectively, nothing is fixed yet.
Unicode 18.0.0 Beta
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Eh, it's not like there are hundreds of emojises pretty much exclusively tied to Japanese culture.
They were grandfathered in, not voted on. Or rather there was a vote that resulted in adopting the character sets developed by Japanese telecoms en masse.
Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta
#43Personally the whole emoji thing is an unmitigated disaster. I'm okay with smileys and gestures but everything else is pointless
Also, in passwords on websites to keep developers on their toes.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
You mean theoretically. Effectively, nothing is fixed yet.
IVD works, theoretically and practically (recent versions of OpenType have an explicit support for them). It's not their fault that Japanese vendors have been not very quick to adopt them.
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IVD works, theoretically and practically (recent versions of OpenType have an explicit support for them). It's not their fault that Japanese vendors have been not very quick to adopt them.
If a Japanese and Taiwanese person type things with their keyboards and end up with the same bytes for different logical characters then no things do not work practically for any practical definition of "practically".
Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta
#46No toki pona?
Does it need any additional code points?
Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta
#47Personally the whole emoji thing is an unmitigated disaster. I'm okay with smileys and gestures but everything else is pointless
I enjoy putting emojis in folder names on my computer for easier visual identification. Also, in passwords on websites to keep developers on their toes.
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Generally Unicode is for encoding all existing encodings/writing. So you generally can’t add something because it would be cool or fun or useful, but only because it is currently in use and cannot be encoded by Unicode.
If this were entirely true, we'd never see new emoji added, and yet we do.
Consider all of the languages it supports. Consider: ﷽ (which isn't an emoji, but the point stands) which is an entire sentence. It was already in use in certain places and unicode decided they wanted to support it, so now they do. Previously, one would have to type out the entire sentence in the original characters, but now it is a single unicode, just like u+263a () used to be alt+1 (). The emoji was already in use long before unicode existed, and in seeing it in common use, they decided to support it.
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The entire notion that emoticons should be limited to what a committee approves (which is then mangled by corporate PR even further) is ridiculous. Just retvrn to images.
This. But more work is needed. I tried a bunch of Discord alternatives like Matrix but very few have a fun experience with things custom emoji images that really make a chat server feel like a home.
For the most part, now that Matrix is merging those Matrix 2.0 specs finally, and the 2.0 features are already out in the wild with excellent results, it has a really good base, and as expected we've started to see clients build more into the average-consumer space to pose as alternatives to both niche and mainstream audiences such as Discord, Whatsapp, etc - Which it just wasn't/isn't able to do on Matrix 1.x (legacy).
Re: Unicode 18.0.0 Beta
#50Personally the whole emoji thing is an unmitigated disaster. I'm okay with smileys and gestures but everything else is pointless
And yeah, :slack-style-emoji-notation: is superior. It was just a historical necessity for Google/Apple.