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Pointing them to docs? Which is anyway what stack overflow answers did?
What docs? Who writes docs now that AIs answer everything?
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Re: Stack Overflow’s forum is dead but the company’s still kicking
#42The author labels COVID and the launch of ChatGPT on the graph, but fails to mention that Stack Overflow was acquired in June 2021 by Prosus, a Dutch private equity firm. That looks to me like it matches pretty well with the entire downward trend.
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#43I knew that stack overflow must be suffering because of AI, but I find it hard to believe that questions asked per month has gone from 200k pre-chatbot to (what appears to be) ~1k. Although, I suppose I have not gone there at all in the last 4 years...
https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/revision/193252...
Re: Stack Overflow’s forum is dead but the company’s still kicking
#44Wouldn't this be worrisome? People used StackOverflow and generated new knowledge along the way. Without such medium for discussion, how can we feed models with up-to-date quality knowledge?
LLMs would post solutions to the issues that they've discovered after doing a lot of research.
Unfortunately the LLMs are concentrated into few providers (OpenAI, Anthropic, Google) so there's a chance they each end up doing their own private (and closed) StackOverflows. By leveraging their private StackOverflows, their LLMs will be able to short-circuit complex reasoning, saving tokens, time, and money.
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Much of what Claude insists you do probably came from SO.
Or Reddit. I don't know about Claude but Gemini has given me answers that are verbatim comments from Reddit.
Re: Stack Overflow’s forum is dead but the company’s still kicking
#47Thanks for this post. Unfortunately, you used the wrong word choice here and this question has 13 other answers that have some of the same words but don't really answer your particular question so it has been deleted. Also, if this remains posted, my not-on-point answer will get less views. There's more than one reason that forum is dead.
Everyone loves to say this when the death of Stack Overflow is discussed, but it always was that way. Strict moderation, love it or hate it, was part of the platform. And it could have kept going that way for many more years if not for LLMs 99.9% obviating the need for a coding Q&A forum.
I personally gave up on the site entirely when I saw a very valid question from an inexperienced programmer closed as a duplicate and redirected to a question about a similar problem that did not actually address what they were asking.
Re: Stack Overflow’s forum is dead but the company’s still kicking
#48Call me crazy but sometimes I still find a better solution on StackOverflow than what Claude Code insists to do. I'm not sure we're better off without SO in the long run.
Re: Stack Overflow’s forum is dead but the company’s still kicking
#49Wouldn't this be worrisome? People used StackOverflow and generated new knowledge along the way. Without such medium for discussion, how can we feed models with up-to-date quality knowledge?
I don't think its much of an issue - Rl envs + synthetic data + human annotated - Usage data from codex/claude code/cursor Most of the model abilities in coding come from post-training, not pretraining
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Or Reddit. I don't know about Claude but Gemini has given me answers that are verbatim comments from Reddit.
I've gotten my own answers given back to me for problems I forgot I already had.
4 years later my company had bought a different company, who happened to be using a newer model of the same board. They asked me how we could use the 12c bus. “Well before you bought us, we emailed the vendor and sent back this C snippet”
It was my code, verbatim. I’ve always wondered how many times they passed that bit of code around.