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Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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What a strange thing to publish.. just don't use it if you don't like it? What is this even attempting to do?

Realistically, polarizing figures like DHH will have complaints pointed at their work for reasons other than the work itself. And when the complaints are grounded they’ll often be of higher amplitude than otherwise.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#42
post #2

What a strange thing to publish.. just don't use it if you don't like it? What is this even attempting to do?

What's wrong with voicing opinion on the Internet? It's a personal blog, you don't have to read it if you don't like it.

There are plenty of strange things that gets publish every day, I don't see why you get hung up on this post.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#43
We seem to have arrived at a set of assumptions that states that if a large number of people like something that we don’t, or don’t subscribe to some cultural norms that we doggedly adhere to, then there has to be something sinister afoot.

The out of box experience with Omarchy is highly functional, aesthetically pleasing and challenges users to lean more on keyboard shortcuts than they’d typically be used to. That’s clever because once you’re whizzing around with these shortcuts you feel accomplished, productive, and that generates loyalty towards the distro.

None of this is a bad thing, anything that makes Linux more accessible and interesting is good. Bucking trends that were making Linux harder to adopt or less culturally relevant is good too.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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I've tried to setup Arch with Hyprland like 3 times on my own and with the most popular dot files. It was terrible, frustrating and things broke all the time. Omarchy fixed that and I can't recommend it enough.

Did dhh provide a recipe to install hyprland properly without having to install a full "distribution"? (I don't know, it's a real question) It feels very strange (and wrong) to me: if there is difficulties in installing something, try to help people instead of packaging the solution with other things that are not related. It feels a bit like if uv was mainly providing their "uvOS" to solve the difficulties of dealing…

If I remember it correctly Omarchy started as an in-house alternative to macOS in one of DHHs companies. And was then released to the public.

So the purpose of Omarchy was to get devices quickly set up with some opinionated defaults.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#45
Pretty clear by the other opinions this author has on his “blog” that he dislikes DHH for more than just the Omarchy distribution.

Here’s a fact - Omarchy opened up Arch to a whole crowd of people that would have never tried Arch given its notorious difficulty to the uninitiated.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#46

I’m sorry, but what is the actual definition of a distro? What makes Omarchy different than, say, Cachy which is also an opinionated DE and set of packages on top of Arch. There aren’t really any rules to what to find this or not. Just because something is more opinionated than other solutions doesn’t mean it’s invalid. In fact, I would say that that’s the primary reason people gravitate towards Omarchy. Many develop…

I don't think the discussion about "is it a distribution or not" is very interesting, but I think the discussion about "should we make clear that this _thing_ is just a bunch of config files rather than the usual work one would expect behind what was traditionally called linux distributions".

And I know Omarchy is not the only one out there doing something similar, and that there is a spectrum. It is not a problem. The problem is not the existence of the spectrum, the problem is that at some point, we should just call a cat a cat instead of arguing "well, being a cat is a spectrum, so every year we can call a new thing in the adjacent spectrum a cat and pretend it has all the quality one would expect from a cat".

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did dhh provide a recipe to install hyprland properly without having to install a full "distribution"? (I don't know, it's a real question) It feels very strange (and wrong) to me: if there is difficulties in installing something, try to help people instead of packaging the solution with other things that are not related. It feels a bit like if uv was mainly providing their "uvOS" to solve the difficulties of dealing…

If I remember it correctly Omarchy started as an in-house alternative to macOS in one of DHHs companies. And was then released to the public. So the purpose of Omarchy was to get devices quickly set up with some opinionated defaults.

So, is the answer "no"?

I don't think it changes anything about what I was saying. If indeed dhh helped find a way to install hyprland more easily but failed to also provide a standalone recipe, that does not sound like a good practice to me.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

#50
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I've tried to setup Arch with Hyprland like 3 times on my own and with the most popular dot files. It was terrible, frustrating and things broke all the time. Omarchy fixed that and I can't recommend it enough.

I’ve done both ultimately doing it raw helped me figure out why my setup and the omarchy attempt failed, (my cpu integrated graphics were rendering and passing the result to my 3090 not using the card at all) but I think anything that elevates Linux and solves the endless choices for people who don’t enjoy engaging with that is a good thing.
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