Earlier quoted context omitted.
"drm is malware" is so 2005.
A saying being old doesn’t make it invalid anyway. What’s your point?
My point is that this saying is the tritest of the trite, and therefore not worth being posted.
Valve removes free game from Steam after players discover it contains malware
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Re: Valve removes free game from Steam after players discover it contains malware
#42What about all the other games with malware, like Denuvo and similar?
I recommend installing Linux. If it wont play on Linux even with Proton, you shouldn't give them a single penny.
I agree, although I've made exceptions for a very small number of games with Denuvo (actually, just Hogwarts Legacy, which in hindsight I'm glad I did even though it still hurts my soul a bit) and they can run on Linux (I have nothing else but Linux). It's mostly kernel-level anti-cheat that won't run from what I've read.
Re: Valve removes free game from Steam after players discover it contains malware
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
"drm is malware" is so 2005.
"We have to stop the nazis" is so 1940s. "Congress is engaged in a witch hunt" is so 1950s. "Civil rights should be applied to everyone" is so 1960s. "Fossil Fuels are destroying the plant" is so 1970s. "Unregulated free trade is dangerous" is so 1980s. "The police are out of control and unduly target minorities" is so 1990s. Something being old doesn't make it less relevant or important. It means we need to say it l…
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Re: Valve removes free game from Steam after players discover it contains malware
#44Re: Valve removes free game from Steam after players discover it contains malware
#45Games are an almost perfect type of software to be run in a sandbox. The question is, why aren't they already run in a sandbox?
Is this not just an artifact of windows not sandboxing anything meaningfully and that itself is an artifact of punch cards?
Re: Valve removes free game from Steam after players discover it contains malware
#46There is a game - Beyond The Darkness - released few weeks before the name change
"Beyond the Darkness" was released on Nov 14 2024 - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1728610/Beyond_The_Darkne...
"Beyond the Dark" (the malware) was released (ahem, renamed) on Dec 28 2024
Re: Valve removes free game from Steam after players discover it contains malware
#47Games are an almost perfect type of software to be run in a sandbox. The question is, why aren't they already run in a sandbox?
I run Proton in Steam flatpak, as well as itch.io from flatpak. That is reasonable enough isolation for my use case.
Re: Valve removes free game from Steam after players discover it contains malware
#48Games are an almost perfect type of software to be run in a sandbox. The question is, why aren't they already run in a sandbox?
SteamOS leverages namespaces via pressure-vessel already. The problem exists exclusively on Windows. Paravirtualized drivers introduce API incompatibility issues and decades of cumulative engine infrastructure made for Windows using the Win32 API means nobody wants to swap over to using UWP and thus AppContainers are a non-starter (and that's without getting to sacrificing Wine/Proton compatibility). The native isola…
Sandboxing is quite easy (user-wise), once you install the sandbox system. By default it allows only a single sandbox, and with small `.wsb` file you can drive what's visible from the host, whether the GPU should be active, etc. - https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/applicati...
It's great for testing, and Sandbox is just the tip of the iceberg of what Windows Containers support
- e.g. maybe someone can come up with "launcher" that goes through it (somehow).
Re: Valve removes free game from Steam after players discover it contains malware
#49And yet games like Subnautica 2 do similar things and nobody stops them because it’s in the EULA.
What does Subnautica 2 have?
i assume they are referring to denuvo.
and, while denuvo and other drm for games is indeed awful, i find it silly to equate it with cryptocurrency stealing malware.
Re: Valve removes free game from Steam after players discover it contains malware
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
"drm is malware" is so 2005.
Well, Riot Games just today (!) admitted to hard-bricking cheating hardware [1]. This kind of stuff definitely is malware, and your comment aged like milk. [1] https://videocardz.com/newz/riot-games-on-valorant-dma-cheat...
You are confusing drm with anti cheats.
In any case, good for Riot, and good especially for their players!